Rear lift options

[Bpiet378]

I’m trying to decide between rear Bilsteins, small spacer or the 1.5” Icon springs. If anyone is using the Icon springs how’s the ride compared to stock? I’m being told by some guys Bilsteins won’t lift it an inch and others say it will so what’s the final word on those too?

 

[Eltaco]

I’m trying to decide between rear Bilsteins, small spacer or the 1.5” Icon springs. If anyone is using the Icon springs how’s the ride compared to stock? I’m being told by some guys Bilsteins won’t lift it an inch and others say it will so what’s the final word on those too?

Rear Bilsteins will not add any lift, but they’ll allow you to add 1” of lift without damaging the shock. You’d need a 1” taller spring or spacer to get the 1” lift along with the Bilstein shocks.

 

[Bpiet378]

Rear Bilsteins will not add any lift, but they’ll allow you to add 1” of lift without damaging the shock. You’d need a 1” taller spring or spacer to get the 1” lift along with the Bilstein shocks.

So would I be able to use Icon 1.5” springs with bilstein 5100 shocks? So I can’t use stock shocks with the Icon springs? Can you not run stock shocks with the spacer either then?

 

[Eltaco]

So, I talked with Bilstein on this last week. The 5100s will allow 1” lift over a ORP Ram, which is already 1” higher than normal. If the Icon springs are 1.5” taller than regular non-ORP, you’d be fine with the 5100s.

I can’t speak to the stock shocks. Have no idea how well they play with lift springs. Icon would probably be able to tell you.

 

[Bpiet378]

@Eltaco Okay maybe I’ll toss Bilsteins and Icon on then. ORP as in Rebel or? Opinions on Icon vs Tuftruck?

 

[Eltaco]

@Eltaco Okay maybe I’ll toss Bilsteins and Icon on then. ORP as in Rebel or? Opinions on Icon vs Tuftruck?

Rebel and ORP (off-road package) share the same taller springs to achieve 1” height over a normal Ram. If you don’t have ORP or a Rebel, you have “normal” springs.

I don’t know much about either, honestly. You’ll probably find what you’re looking for by searching around tho. That said, rarely will you see two options compared. Usually, once someone puts a lift on, they don’t remove and install another on the same vehicle to receive an actual A to B comparison.

I know most here are just doing spacers along with the stock springs.

I went Bilstein 5100 on all 4 corners, and lifted my front 1.5” on the #4 clip setting to set my truck level. If you’re going 1.5” higher with Icon spring in the rear, you’re going to have to lift the front quite a bit to level, if that’s your goal. To do so, you may want to consider what that’s going to cost, as you’re probably looking at 3-3.5” front lift to achieve it. That may involve upper control arms to correct the ball joint angle, for example, and a stiffer setup than you want.

Here’s my setup

 

[Bpiet378]

Rebel and ORP (off-road package) share the same taller springs to achieve 1” height over a normal Ram. If you don’t have ORP or a Rebel, you have “normal” springs.

I don’t know much about either, honestly. You’ll probably find what you’re looking for by searching around tho. That said, rarely will you see two options compared. Usually, once someone puts a lift on, they don’t remove and install another on the same vehicle to receive an actual A to B comparison.

I know most here are just doing spacers along with the stock springs.

I went Bilstein 5100 on all 4 corners, and lifted my front 1.5” on the #4 clip setting to set my truck level. If you’re going 1.5” higher with Icon spring in the rear, you’re going to have to lift the front quite a bit to level, if that’s your goal. To do so, you may want to consider what that’s going to cost, as you’re probably looking at 3-3.5” front lift to achieve it. That may involve upper control arms to correct the ball joint angle, for example, and a stiffer setup than you want.

Here’s my setup

Gotcha. No I was thinking to raise the back after the front Bilsteins to keep a rake. Thanks for the options though. I’ve been trying to find posts on here about people replacing their springs but I can’t find much on Icons or Tuftruck stuff.

 

[Truckguy]

Rebel and ORP (off-road package) share the same taller springs to achieve 1” height over a normal Ram. If you don’t have ORP or a Rebel, you have “normal” springs.

I don’t know much about either, honestly. You’ll probably find what you’re looking for by searching around tho. That said, rarely will you see two options compared. Usually, once someone puts a lift on, they don’t remove and install another on the same vehicle to receive an actual A to B comparison.

I know most here are just doing spacers along with the stock springs.

I went Bilstein 5100 on all 4 corners, and lifted my front 1.5” on the #4 clip setting to set my truck level. If you’re going 1.5” higher with Icon spring in the rear, you’re going to have to lift the front quite a bit to level, if that’s your goal. To do so, you may want to consider what that’s going to cost, as you’re probably looking at 3-3.5” front lift to achieve it. That may involve upper control arms to correct the ball joint angle, for example, and a stiffer setup than you want.

Here’s my setup

Does your truck have the ORP springs or “normal” springs?

 

[User_21361]

I’m trying to decide between rear Bilsteins, small spacer or the 1.5” Icon springs. If anyone is using the Icon springs how’s the ride compared to stock? I’m being told by some guys Bilsteins won’t lift it an inch and others say it will so what’s the final word on those too?

Did you end up getting the icons?

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[ChadT]

Gotcha. No I was thinking to raise the back after the front Bilsteins to keep a rake. Thanks for the options though. I’ve been trying to find posts on here about people replacing their springs but I can’t find much on Icons or Tuftruck stuff.

I'm watching this thread and ones like it.
I'm thinking about moving to 34.3in "skinny" (~11in instead of in the 12.5in range) tires at some point.
I do not want a level truck, I would like some rake mainly for payload reasons.

I was thinking ~1.5in front and back might be all that's needed to clear a set of 34.3s and maintain the rake

 

[ljndralec]

Gotcha. No I was thinking to raise the back after the front Bilsteins to keep a rake. Thanks for the options though. I’ve been trying to find posts on here about people replacing their springs but I can’t find much on Icons or Tuftruck stuff.

did you end up getting the icon 1.5 rear springs? im about to buy them thinking about it im trying to get better ride quality

 

[User_21361]

did you end up getting the icon 1.5 rear springs? im about to buy them thinking about it im trying to get better ride quality

Haha I'm in the exact same boat.... I can't find any info on the springs. I'm planning to call icon on Tuesday to get their spring rates and @ what height the spring rate changes.

Does anyone know the spring rate on the stock rebel/orp springs?

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[Mbrigh3]

any follow up on this?

I have a 21 Laramie 1500 non ORP 4wd.

I believe I am going with Bilstein 5100's up front and Icon 1.5 springs in the back. Anyone running this? or think its a problem?

I should sit like a leveled ORP at the end. I also dont mind a rake. I actually prefer it

 

[User_21361]

any follow up on this?

I have a 21 Laramie 1500 non ORP 4wd.

I believe I am going with Bilstein 5100's up front and Icon 1.5 springs in the back. Anyone running this? or think its a problem?

I should sit like a leveled ORP at the end. I also dont mind a rake. I actually prefer it

This is what I went for. The icon springs should work fine, but weren’t tall enough for my applications. They are will provide the same height as the ORP springs.

Clayton Offroad 2.5" Jeep Gladiator Springs on 2020 Rebel

Clayton Offroad 2.5" Jeep Gladiator Springs on 2020 Rebel

TDLR: The Clayton offroad 2.5 lift springs DO fit a 2020 Rebel What I tried to accomplish: I recently added Fox 2.5 shocks in the front and rear. The ORP/Rebel shocks give 1" in the back, but the Fox coilovers allow for me to go to 3" inches in the front. This means I needed an extra inch in...

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[Mbrigh3]

This is what I went for. The icon springs should work fine, but weren’t tall enough for my applications. They are will provide the same height as the ORP springs.

Clayton Offroad 2.5" Jeep Gladiator Springs on 2020 Rebel

Clayton Offroad 2.5" Jeep Gladiator Springs on 2020 Rebel

TDLR: The Clayton offroad 2.5 lift springs DO fit a 2020 Rebel What I tried to accomplish: I recently added Fox 2.5 shocks in the front and rear. The ORP/Rebel shocks give 1" in the back, but the Fox coilovers allow for me to go to 3" inches in the front. This means I needed an extra inch in...

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would you get icon over the Bilstein version?

 

[R.Duff]

I've got bilstein 6112s in the front and 5160s in the rear with Dobinson rear coils. They give ya 2inches of lift in the rear with a 550lb in the bed.
Didn't want icons cause they seem to compress or not give much lift and they clap/clunk I hear.

Just another option for ya

550lb coils https://www.dobinsonsdirect.com/pro...c16-053v?rq=mk_dodge~md_ram-1500~yr_2019-2021

Softer rate coils

Dobinsons Direct

Dobinsons Direct

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