Rattle under load sounds like rattle can or metallic clicking sound

[SD Rebel]

You don't need to have an ear for it. When it sounds like a rattle can you will hear it unless completely deaf. Most people don't know what it sounds like because it is an abnormal condition, even if running 87 octane in a hemi. Back when points and plugs were only good for about 30,000 miles, detonation knock was a sure sign you needed a tune up.

I think certain frequencies I don't really hear very well anymore, I blame it on my days in the Army

But I remember in many occasions people hearing light pinging that I didn't notice, I think the key word is "light pinging", I think I just don't hear it very well, especially in newer more insulated vehicles.

I'm sure heavy pinging I can probably pick up.

 

[Ram4Lou]

Filled the tank with 91 and after a quarter tank the sound did go away. That’s crazy that it won’t accept 87.

So glad this solved your issue

I used to live in Houston and just moved to New Orleans about a year ago. Both hot humid climates (especially right now, LOL)! I tried 87 once or twice when I first got the truck and absolutely heard the pinging (rattle can) during heavy acceleration in Summertime. I’ve NEVER heard pinging while using 89. No reason to waste the extra money on 91, unless 89 is not available in your area

 

[Ruben-Ram5th 1500]

2021 Ram 1500 4x4, 50K KM

This noise has been bugging me for some time now. The dealer replaced both manifolds (which was not the issue). My bumper-to-bumper warranty has ended.

The sound only happens under 2-4K RPM acceleration; you hear a rattle sound. The sound is almost like a rattle can. It’s hard to describe. The sound does not occur in neutral or park when revving the engine. Even if you have it in drive, hold the brake, and give gas, you don’t get the sound.

The dealer and I have checked for heat shields and loose exhaust, but nothing seems loose. I have taken a mallet to the catalytic converters to see if something is loose, and they seem solid.

They replaced the manifolds, lower control arms and upper arms but could not find this issue. Or just chose to ignore it after.

Surely I cannot be the only that has this sound.

In my case, it was the tip of the exhaust touching the bumper. I just bent it down a little, and the rattle was gone.

 

[HelixRam12]

So glad this solved your issue

I used to live in Houston and just moved to New Orleans about a year ago. Both hot humid climates (especially right now, LOL)! I tried 87 once or twice when I first got the truck and absolutely heard the pinging (rattle can) during heavy acceleration in Summertime. I’ve NEVER heard pinging while using 89. No reason to waste the extra money on 91, unless 89 is not available in your area

Sadly it did not fix the issue. As someone stated earlier if I am towing it’s even more frequent sound. My bumper to bumper warranty is over but I still have power train. I am going to try a different dealer. My question why does it only happen under load and not in neutral or park while reving?

 

[HSKR R/T]

Sadly it did not fix the issue. As someone stated earlier if I am towing it’s even more frequent sound. My bumper to bumper warranty is over but I still have power train. I am going to try a different dealer. My question why does it only happen under load and not in neutral or park while reving?

Because in park or nuetral there isn't a load on the engine. And not as much timing advance.

 

[Ram4Lou]

Sadly it did not fix the issue. As someone stated earlier if I am towing it’s even more frequent sound. My bumper to bumper warranty is over but I still have power train. I am going to try a different dealer. My question why does it only happen under load and not in neutral or park while reving?

Here in New Orleans, we have 93 octane fuel. I haven’t needed it as the 89 works perfectly in my truck. Not sure if you have higher than 91 available where you are, but that would be something to try. Or maybe pour in some octane booster while you’re filling up with 91 and then see if that helps. Just some things to try to see if you are indeed dealing with pre-detonation. It’s possible your issue may be something else, but everything you’re describing sounds exactly like spark knock.

 

[Ramfancy]

Have you changed the plugs and had the knock sensor checked?

That would be my next step I guess…

 

[HelixRam12]

I could change the plugs but the truck only has 60,000km (37K miles) I could bring it for them to check the knock sensor. Would the knock sensor I assume not be part of the power train warranty.

 

[HelixRam12]

Have you changed the plugs and had the knock sensor checked?

That would be my next step I guess…

When I did do 91 fills up I also added octane booster

 

[phillipbergman86]

Hey everyone. I'm a little late to this, but have been hearing the same thing as described above in my 2019 Ram 1500 5.7L Hemi (48.5k Miles). It's pretty audible when the MDS kicks back on if I'm going about 40 MPH just cruising and the MDS kicks in and then I give it some gas....the transition going from MDS on to back to all 8 cylinders makes the noise for a moment. But it also can do it just any time the engine is under slight load (If I disable the MDS by using the Gear Limit it still makes this noise). Here is a video I took with a gopro under the hood. In the video I'm probably going around 60 MPH just cruising and I'm assuming the rattle is coming from load on the engine in 8th gear. I'm currently at about half a tank of gas, I had filled up completely with 91, and then at about a quarter tank filled back up with 89. Previously I had always used 87, but haven't noticed any change in the noise it's making since switching to 91/89. Is this noise Detonation/Spark Knock etc? It drives me crazy.

 

[theblet]

87 should be fine, unless it’s low quality

 

[kapinallinen2]

Hey everyone. I'm a little late to this, but have been hearing the same thing as described above in my 2019 Ram 1500 5.7L Hemi (48.5k Miles). It's pretty audible when the MDS kicks back on if I'm going about 40 MPH just cruising and the MDS kicks in and then I give it some gas....the transition going from MDS on to back to all 8 cylinders makes the noise for a moment. But it also can do it just any time the engine is under slight load (If I disable the MDS by using the Gear Limit it still makes this noise). Here is a video I took with a gopro under the hood. In the video I'm probably going around 60 MPH just cruising and I'm assuming the rattle is coming from load on the engine in 8th gear. I'm currently at about half a tank of gas, I had filled up completely with 91, and then at about a quarter tank filled back up with 89. Previously I had always used 87, but haven't noticed any change in the noise it's making since switching to 91/89. Is this noise Detonation/Spark Knock etc? It drives me crazy.

I would do a compression check to eliminate carbon build-up (old school here) look at the ignition advance while under load, possibly an ECU malfunction, any sensors acting up should throw a code.

 

[Roughhide99]

2021 Ram 1500 4x4, 50K KM

This noise has been bugging me for some time now. The dealer replaced both manifolds (which was not the issue). My bumper-to-bumper warranty has ended.

The sound only happens under 2-4K RPM acceleration; you hear a rattle sound. The sound is almost like a rattle can. It’s hard to describe. The sound does not occur in neutral or park when revving the engine. Even if you have it in drive, hold the brake, and give gas, you don’t get the sound.

The dealer and I have checked for heat shields and loose exhaust, but nothing seems loose. I have taken a mallet to the catalytic converters to see if something is loose, and they seem solid.

They replaced the manifolds, lower control arms and upper arms but could not find this issue. Or just chose to ignore it after.

Surely I cannot be the only that has this sound I noticed the same problem under hard execration I hear a low rattling sound coming from the engine Bay Area then it goes away

 

[HelixRam12]

Anyone facing this issue. The dealer doesn’t have a clue. They hear it but said it’s a needle in a haystack… as no codes are present.

 

[Ruben-Ram5th 1500]

Hey everyone. I'm a little late to this, but have been hearing the same thing as described above in my 2019 Ram 1500 5.7L Hemi (48.5k Miles). It's pretty audible when the MDS kicks back on if I'm going about 40 MPH just cruising and the MDS kicks in and then I give it some gas....the transition going from MDS on to back to all 8 cylinders makes the noise for a moment. But it also can do it just any time the engine is under slight load (If I disable the MDS by using the Gear Limit it still makes this noise). Here is a video I took with a gopro under the hood. In the video I'm probably going around 60 MPH just cruising and I'm assuming the rattle is coming from load on the engine in 8th gear. I'm currently at about half a tank of gas, I had filled up completely with 91, and then at about a quarter tank filled back up with 89. Previously I had always used 87, but haven't noticed any change in the noise it's making since switching to 91/89. Is this noise Detonation/Spark Knock etc? It drives me crazy.

Hey everyone. I'm a little late to this, but have been hearing the same thing as described above in my 2019 Ram 1500 5.7L Hemi (48.5k Miles). It's pretty audible when the MDS kicks back on if I'm going about 40 MPH just cruising and the MDS kicks in and then I give it some gas....the transition going from MDS on to back to all 8 cylinders makes the noise for a moment. But it also can do it just any time the engine is under slight load (If I disable the MDS by using the Gear Limit it still makes this noise). Here is a video I took with a gopro under the hood. In the video I'm probably going around 60 MPH just cruising and I'm assuming the rattle is coming from load on the engine in 8th gear. I'm currently at about half a tank of gas, I had filled up completely with 91, and then at about a quarter tank filled back up with 89. Previously I had always used 87, but haven't noticed any change in the noise it's making since switching to 91/89. Is this noise Detonation/Spark Knock etc? It drives me crazy.

Have you tried placing the GoPro in different locations? On the other side perhaps?

 

[suli]

@phillipbergman86 , your video does sound like knock/pre-detonation. That's crazy.