Was gonna say, not very dirty.Yes, yes indeed.. with the proper tools, a bit of land and neighbors that don't ask questions...
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Not my actual tractor but have one exactly the same.
Defending yourself isn't over the top.Going over the top and using lethal force
you are intitled to your opinionMeanwhile, I'll still sit here and marvel at people who go over the top to protect a material thing that can be replaced.
Defending yourself, no. I agree with you it's not over the top.Defending yourself isn't over the top.
I agree it won't be the same, and I never said it would be. But then again, my current truck isn't the same as my last one or the one before that. They've all been different in some way or another, yet I've been happy with each of them, so I'm not going to fool myself and say that my truck is irreplaceable. I like it, and when the time comes that I do get a new truck I want it to be on my terms, not because some low life took it. At the same time, I'm not going to make it a big production to start the truck every time in an attempt to prevent that either. A simple switch or visible deterrents seems sufficient. ← obviously just one person's opinionyou are intitled to your opinion
but when replaced it is NEVER the same!!!
This isnt accurate.But when it's parked in your driveway (as this thread started), and you're sitting in the house with a gun waiting to confront the thief (as someone implied), you're not defending yourself. You're defending property. Even in the courts eyes that doesn't escalate to a justifiable use of lethal force, and therefore is over the top.
Defending yourself is different than. Run ING out of your house with a gun and shooting someone breaking into your vehicle that was not a threat .Defending yourself isn't over the top.
Who here has said to do that?Defending yourself is different than. Run ING out of your house with a gun and shooting someone breaking into your vehicle that was not a threat .
That's why you can't forget to put their fingerprints on the weapon you drop next to the body
The thread is about preventing you truck from being stolen. Not defending yourself from an attacker. Most car thieves aren't going to attack someone who comes out to investigate their vehicle being broken in to. They are going to run. Many have commented in this thread about using a gun to prevent theft. Which means they have intentions of shooting the person breaking in or trying to steal it.Who here has said to do that?
Open and shut case Johnson!
There are millions of defensive uses of firearms every year where there isn't a single round fired.Th
The thread is about preventing you truck from being stolen. Not defending yourself from an attacker. Most car thieves aren't going to attack someone who comes out to investigate their vehicle being broken in to. They are going to run. Many have commented in this thread about using a gun to prevent theft. Which means they have intentions of shooting the person breaking in or trying to steal it.
If you decide to brandish a firearm, then at that point you have already decided you intend to use it. If not, then why have it?There are millions of defensive uses of firearms every year where there isn't a single round fired.
"Using a gun to prevent theft" is not "run ING out of your house with a gun and shooting someone breaking into your vehicle that was not a threat."
In every state I'm familiar with, you're permitted to use nondeadly force to stop property theft, including the lawful display of a firearm.
Brandishing is a specific term. There's absolutely nothing that locks you into using a firearm just because you've drawn it and/or displayed it.If you decide to brandish a firearm, then at that point you have already decided you intend to use it. If not, then why have it?
Tell that to the couple in Florida that has their weapons confiscated and destroyed for standing in their yard, in a gated community, as protestors, who didn't live there's marched through.In every state I'm familiar with, you're permitted to use nondeadly force to stop property theft, including the lawful display of a firearm.
First, that wasn't in Florida. Second, they brandished firearms at people who weren't on their property, so I'd like to see you draw a parallel there.Tell that to the couple in Florida that has their weapons confiscated and destroyed for standing in their yard, in a gated community, as protestors, who didn't live there's marched through.
I am gonna agree and disagree with you at the same time. As some one with 1st hand experience. Granted it was not a car thieve but to your points.Th
The thread is about preventing you truck from being stolen. Not defending yourself from an attacker. Most car thieves aren't going to attack someone who comes out to investigate their vehicle being broken in to. They are going to run. Many have commented in this thread about using a gun to prevent theft. Which means they have intentions of shooting the person breaking in or trying to steal it.