Looking to Buy - 6 vs 8 cylinder?

[Scram1500]

It can't be more complicated than a V configuration with two heads. An inline 6 has 40% less moving parts than it's V6 counterpart, never mind a V8 with collapsible lifters.

 

[LOWRMPG]

I strongly disagree with post #4 and my buddies who are service writers would tell you the same. The Hurricane is an overly complex, overly expensive engine. It has flaws that will really begin to show themselves in a few years when more of them have higher mileage on them, and labor times are typically much greater to repair them vs the traditional V8. The fuel economy isn’t better than the V8 in the real world. Resale won’t be as good. And driving the 3.0 isn’t as enjoyable because it lacks the heart and soul of the V8.



Does the 3.0 outperform the 5.7? Possibly, but the difference is so small it’s not worth the drawbacks.

Funny you compared everything but the actual power numbers of the motors Love the logic on the 'resale won't be as good' comment, and you clearly haven't been in a HO truck....heart and soul is definitely not lacking.

 

[Reverse]

Hi There,
I am curious what warranty you have with a year left given its a 20 with 193K. I am looking for an after market warranty since my RAM one is about to expire and the ones I have reviewed do not have the service life that you have.

At the time, Ram sold a 7-year, unlimited mileage warranty which cost me $2400. The 7 years are up next year. I don't want to drive a truck outside of warranty, so I'm trading it in. BTW, if your wondering if the $2400 was worth it: I estimate I have had at least $11K-$15K in waaranty repairs doen ovber the years, the latest repair being a new transmission.

They don't sell that warranty anymore though.

 

[steves1911]

I strongly disagree with post #4 and my buddies who are service writers would tell you the same. The Hurricane is an overly complex, overly expensive engine. It has flaws that will really begin to show themselves in a few years when more of them have higher mileage on them, and labor times are typically much greater to repair them vs the traditional V8. The fuel economy isn’t better than the V8 in the real world. Resale won’t be as good. And driving the 3.0 isn’t as enjoyable because it lacks the heart and soul of the V8.



Does the 3.0 outperform the 5.7? Possibly, but the difference is so small it’s not worth the drawbacks.

Driving the 3.0 isn't as enjoyable? Have you actually drive one other than on a dealer lot? I've never had a hemi put a smile on my face like that hurricane does. Towing in the mountians is an absolute joy with the instant torque the twin turbos put out. The performance diffrence is night and day . Peak hp and tq comes on so much sooner with the hurricane and it has more of it . Not sure how an I6 thats better balanced with fewer internal parts to worry about is overly complex either . Do you think turbo setups are complex? Is the etorque setup not more complex than a turbo setup?

 

[1791]

I strongly disagree with post #4 and my buddies who are service writers would tell you the same. The Hurricane is an overly complex, overly expensive engine. It has flaws that will really begin to show themselves in a few years when more of them have higher mileage on them, and labor times are typically much greater to repair them vs the traditional V8. The fuel economy isn’t better than the V8 in the real world. Resale won’t be as good. And driving the 3.0 isn’t as enjoyable because it lacks the heart and soul of the V8.



Does the 3.0 outperform the 5.7? Possibly, but the difference is so small it’s not worth the drawbacks.

you are 100% correct on all point's. i GUARENTEE you will never see a "high mile" hurricane. if you trade you truck in before 100k maybe or lease go ahead and get the I6 if you want to keep it long term ya better get the V8. the turbo gasoline motors will not hold up. just wait till turbo's need to be replaced out of warrantee then you will see why the resale will be less.

 

[steves1911]

you are 100% correct on all point's. i GUARENTEE you will never see a "high mile" hurricane. if you trade you truck in before 100k maybe or lease go ahead and get the I6 if you want to keep it long term ya better get the V8. the turbo gasoline motors will not hold up. just wait till turbo's need to be replaced out of warrantee then you will see why the resale will be less.

So the hurricane is an anomaly then because this hit in resale value doesn't seem to occur with other makes and models of vehicles with turbos. Could argue the opposite actually.

 

[G Gerard]

At the time, Ram sold a 7-year, unlimited mileage warranty which cost me $2400. The 7 years are up next year. I don't want to drive a truck outside of warranty, so I'm trading it in. BTW, if your wondering if the $2400 was worth it: I estimate I have had at least $11K-$15K in waaranty repairs doen ovber the years, the latest repair being a new transmission.

They don't sell that warranty anymore though.

Thank you for the info.

 

[RedFred]

I strongly disagree with post #4 and my buddies who are service writers would tell you the same. The Hurricane is an overly complex, overly expensive engine. It has flaws that will really begin to show themselves in a few years when more of them have higher mileage on them, and labor times are typically much greater to repair them vs the traditional V8. The fuel economy isn’t better than the V8 in the real world. Resale won’t be as good. And driving the 3.0 isn’t as enjoyable because it lacks the heart and soul of the V8.



Does the 3.0 outperform the 5.7? Possibly, but the difference is so small it’s not worth the drawbacks.

If we have to wait years to discover what the flaws are, then nobody can truly say right now, with any certainty, that there will be problems or if any will truly ever pop up down the road. Secondly, resale value isn't that great on a Ram regardless of what motor you have. Thirdly, the fuel economy is slightly better. I would say I get about 1 mile more per gallon so it's something. And lastly, driving the 3.0 is enjoyable. Very little turbo lag and tons of hp and torque even at lower rpm's. It feels like a big motor to me once you get behind the wheel.

 

[HSKR R/T]

you are 100% correct on all point's. i GUARENTEE you will never see a "high mile" hurricane. if you trade you truck in before 100k maybe or lease go ahead and get the I6 if you want to keep it long term ya better get the V8. the turbo gasoline motors will not hold up. just wait till turbo's need to be replaced out of warrantee then you will see why the resale will be less.

Probably cheaper to replace a turbo out of warranty than a MGU for E-torque. there is zero evidence, currently, to support your claim about reliability and longevity of the Hurricane. There are plenty of turbo gasoline engines on the road with well over 100k miles. Ive owned a couple that I bought used and had zero issues with.

 

[RedFred]

you are 100% correct on all point's. i GUARENTEE you will never see a "high mile" hurricane. if you trade you truck in before 100k maybe or lease go ahead and get the I6 if you want to keep it long term ya better get the V8. the turbo gasoline motors will not hold up. just wait till turbo's need to be replaced out of warrantee then you will see why the resale will be less.

This is a little ridiculous. Lots of high mileage turbo motors on the road. If you don't want the inline twin turbo, no problem, get the V8. But no need to bash the other motor options based on your so called GUARANTEE that is based on no actual factual information.

 

[wvinson]

Driving the 3.0 isn't as enjoyable? Have you actually drive one other than on a dealer lot? I've never had a hemi put a smile on my face like that hurricane does. Towing in the mountians is an absolute joy with the instant torque the twin turbos put out. The performance diffrence is night and day . Peak hp and tq comes on so much sooner with the hurricane and it has more of it . Not sure how an I6 thats better balanced with fewer internal parts to worry about is overly complex either . Do you think turbo setups are complex? Is the etorque setup not more complex than a turbo setup?

If you like the smile on your face from the hurricane, try the JB4 tuner from burger tuning on the HO. Adding an extra 100 hp makes my limited scream! All power comes on almost instantly from the turbos -- makes a big difference and well worth the $650!

 

[Ram1500OwnerMaybe]

If you like the smile on your face from the hurricane, try the JB4 tuner from burger tuning on the HO. Adding an extra 100 hp makes my limited scream! All power comes on almost instantly from the turbos -- makes a big difference and well worth the $650!

Been seeing various references to "tuner". Is this specific to the Hurricane engine?
Does adding a tuner kill the expected gas mileage?
Assume you remove the tuner when taking the truck in for service to avoid them from voiding any warranty?

Back on topic....
I have been loitering on this board for a while, researching for when my truck goes belly up.
Since I tend to keep vehicles as long as it reliable, I have been fighting a similar scenario.

With longevity in mind, the Hemi has its own list of well know potential issues and including the etorque system increases them.
The Hurricane has its own concerns.

Not sure what to do so I asked Grok to compare turbo and non-turbo engines.

On average, non-turbo engines may last 20–50% longer than turbo engines under similar conditions. For example, a non-turbo engine reaching 250,000 miles might outlast a turbo engine by 50,000–100,000 miles. However, modern turbo engines (e.g., those from BMW, Ford, or Volkswagen) with advanced materials and proper care can narrow this gap.

 

[1791]

This is a little ridiculous. Lots of high mileage turbo motors on the road. If you don't want the inline twin turbo, no problem, get the V8. But no need to bash the other motor options based on your so called GUARANTEE that is based on no actual factual information.

i have to respond.
yeah, lot's of high mileage turbos' but they are not hurricanes......not bashing just speaking from my actual experience i have had turbo cars.
we went through this before diesel turbo yeah great! gasoline not so much.
according to google AI lol the highest mileage hurricane RAM has 44k on it.
it's a cliché but it hold's true "the light that burns twice a bright burns half as long" the new wave of turbo 2.0's and 1.5's 4 bangers won't hold up long term either they are not meant to, let's be clear the manufactures want you buy cars/trucks every few years they only care that it makes it past the warrantee. but 2026 RAM 10 year 100k is promising if they stay in business that much longer.
there are many hemi's with well over 200k and i'll eat humble pie if the hurricane get's anywhere near that point.
with millions of hemi's on the road yeah you have some hemi's with issues but percentage wise not huge even when you factor in e-torque.
i hope i'm wrong about the I-6, time will tell.
i am biased as a whole i am anti turbo no matter what I-6, V6, V8, 4 banger hell even 3 banger. NA all the way

 

[Biga]

I had two hemi Ram's and now the SST. The hemi was good for it's time but I would not go back after owning the SST motor. Very Smooth, and a lot more power. Everyone talks about the sound of the hemi but in stock form I thought it was quiet, I mean you couldn't tell it was running at idle. I guess for 2026 they are all getting the GT exhaust which would make it sound more appropriate.

 

[steves1911]

i have to respond.
yeah, lot's of high mileage turbos' but they are not hurricanes......not bashing just speaking from my actual experience i have had turbo cars.
we went through this before diesel turbo yeah great! gasoline not so much.
according to google AI lol the highest mileage hurricane RAM has 44k on it.
it's a cliché but it hold's true "the light that burns twice a bright burns half as long" the new wave of turbo 2.0's and 1.5's 4 bangers won't hold up long term either they are not meant to, let's be clear the manufactures want you buy cars/trucks every few years they only care that it makes it past the warrantee. but 2026 RAM 10 year 100k is promising if they stay in business that much longer.
there are many hemi's with well over 200k and i'll eat humble pie if the hurricane get's anywhere near that point.
with millions of hemi's on the road yeah you have some hemi's with issues but percentage wise not huge even when you factor in e-torque.
i hope i'm wrong about the I-6, time will tell.
i am biased as a whole i am anti turbo no matter what I-6, V6, V8, 4 banger hell even 3 banger. NA all the way

So even though the hurricane operates at lower compression ratios with better internals you still hedge your bets on the hemi? You and I must have had diffrence experiences with turbo engines my first car was a old Chrysler new Yorker with 150k some miles drove it untill the trans went out, then a Plymouth laser turbo that was over 130k miles. After high school I had bought a 84 datsun 300zx with 135k miles on it that car was a blast untill someone ran a red light and tboned me. To me boosted vehicles are so much more responsive. Now ive never driven some of the tiny commuter cars with turbos that were designed solely for fuel savings those are probably pretty boring! I've only owned 1 na gas truck (still do its a 16 ram rebel) the rebel is now a work/farm truck but the new warlock does most the towing. I can tell you from towing the same load on the same route behind both the hemi is working way harder to tow through the mountians of WV . In my experience the engine that needs to work 2x as hard and rev higher to accomplish the same task will not last as long as the other .

 

[HSKR R/T]

i have to respond.
yeah, lot's of high mileage turbos' but they are not hurricanes......not bashing just speaking from my actual experience i have had turbo cars.
we went through this before diesel turbo yeah great! gasoline not so much.
according to google AI lol the highest mileage hurricane RAM has 44k on it.
it's a cliché but it hold's true "the light that burns twice a bright burns half as long" the new wave of turbo 2.0's and 1.5's 4 bangers won't hold up long term either they are not meant to, let's be clear the manufactures want you buy cars/trucks every few years they only care that it makes it past the warrantee. but 2026 RAM 10 year 100k is promising if they stay in business that much longer.
there are many hemi's with well over 200k and i'll eat humble pie if the hurricane get's anywhere near that point.
with millions of hemi's on the road yeah you have some hemi's with issues but percentage wise not huge even when you factor in e-torque.
i hope i'm wrong about the I-6, time will tell.
i am biased as a whole i am anti turbo no matter what I-6, V6, V8, 4 banger hell even 3 banger. NA all the way

So you responded with the same unfounded opinion about the Hurricane as everyone else, who just has to find a way to hate it, does. Google AI doesn't know mileage of every Hurricane out there. They have been used in the Jeep Wagoneers since 2023. I guarantee there are Hurricanes with more than 44k miles on them . Shoot could be SST Rams with more than that. Of all the posts about the 2025s issues I've seen less than a handful that has actual mechanical issues with the engine. Most of the issues are software/electrical related.

 

[Jszlaga]

With all the comments on electrical/software issues, if getting a 2025 build, is there a build date after which you are safe from some of these gremlins? I might get a 2025 based on being able to get better pricing if you take a 2025 off the lot today.

 

[HSKR R/T]

With all the comments on electrical/software issues, if getting a 2025 build, is there a build date after which you are safe from some of these gremlins? I might get a 2025 based on being able to get better pricing if you take a 2025 off the lot today.

Local friend leased one last fall. Spent a ton of time in dealer for no start and not recognizing the fob. He just got a new lease. RAM gave him $15k towards new lease, plus all available incentives. So we will see if his new one does better

 

[WXman]

If we have to wait years to discover what the flaws are, then nobody can truly say right now, with any certainty, that there will be problems or if any will truly ever pop up down the road. Secondly, resale value isn't that great on a Ram regardless of what motor you have. Thirdly, the fuel economy is slightly better. I would say I get about 1 mile more per gallon so it's something. And lastly, driving the 3.0 is enjoyable. Very little turbo lag and tons of hp and torque even at lower rpm's. It feels like a big motor to me once you get behind the wheel.

Well we've already seen:

- 14 hours of labor to change a simple water pump (!)
- Exhaust routing on some models won't even allow for transmission fluid/filter changes, which means people just won't do it, which means shorter trans life
- Timing jobs are a nightmare
- Electrical issues galore

I mean, go over to the Wagoneer forum and click on the "problems/issues/TSBs" section. HOURS and HOURS of reading. It's a disaster. That vehicle (based on Ram 1500 largely) got the engine first.

So yeah, if it's that bad early on (which is to be expected with an overly complex design from Europe) then you can easily guess how it's going to be at 100k, 150k, or beyond. Good luck.

No, fuel economy isn't slightly better. EPA cert only pegged it at 1 MPG better, but in the real world guys are finding that it's worse, which is typical of small turbo engines. Check out Getty's Garage....he's tested them all and the Hurricane is at the bottom of the list.

 

[BowDown]

I strongly disagree with post #4 and my buddies who are service writers would tell you the same. The Hurricane is an overly complex, overly expensive engine. It has flaws that will really begin to show themselves in a few years when more of them have higher mileage on them, and labor times are typically much greater to repair them vs the traditional V8. The fuel economy isn’t better than the V8 in the real world. Resale won’t be as good. And driving the 3.0 isn’t as enjoyable because it lacks the heart and soul of the V8.



Does the 3.0 outperform the 5.7? Possibly, but the difference is so small it’s not worth the drawbacks.

I took my truck in for an alignment, when they were done, the steering wheel was off by about 30°. I had a service writer tell me the truck was aligned in spec and that all the steering wheels were normally off center like that, that I couldn't be satisfied....

Service writers opinions aren't worth