I'll have to admit, I feel a bit left out of all these Hurricane discussions....but......

[beetlespin]

I think I'll hang onto the 5.7 HEMI a bit longer

 

[Willwork4truck]

Never hurts to allow time to get the issues worked out.

If I had kept my 2019 I’d not want to trade for the 1st year of a model, even though the hurricane has been out for 2 years in the GW.

I am surprised that there are still so many issues. Not nice.

 

[PurpleRT]

Go read the thread with the guys having multiple misfires issues with no ETA from Stellantis on a fix or the multiple quality concerns.. at least that should turn you off for a while. Always avoid the first year of a refresh.

Ill just stick with my slow reliable v8 Hemi lol may not be the fastest truck nowadays but perfect enough for a DD.


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[dajogejr]

While I really like the Tungsten trim…and do want to drive a new HO truck.. I bought my 23 mid last year knowing the Hemi was going to be gone soon. I figure in 7-8 years when I’m ready to sell/trade this in, they’ll have the bugs worked out.
Still wanna drive one though.
My truck with 19K and a year and a half old, still makes me smile driving it and looking at it.

 

[Willwork4truck]

While I really like the Tungsten trim…and do want to drive a new HO truck.. I bought my 23 mid last year knowing the Hemi was going to be gone soon. I figure in 7-8 years when I’m ready to sell/trade this in, they’ll have the bugs worked out.
Still wanna drive one though.
My truck with 19K and a year and a half old, still makes me smile driving it and looking at it.

I feel the same. Bought a year end 23' because I didn't want a hurricane and got a great deal on an "unwanted" truck. Still no idea why it sat on the lot for 6 months, nothing is wrong with it and it's optioned just fine. It was one of 2 "leftover" units.
Worked for me....

 

[HSKR R/T]

I feel the same. Bought a year end 23' because I didn't want a hurricane and got a great deal on an "unwanted" truck. Still no idea why it sat on the lot for 6 months, nothing is wrong with it and it's optioned just fine. It was one of 2 "leftover" units.
Worked for me....

It's because the Hurricane isn't the reason for poor sales. That started in 2023 mode year.

 

[HSKR R/T]

Never hurts to allow time to get the issues worked out.

If I had kept my 2019 I’d not want to trade for the 1st year of a model, even though the hurricane has been out for 2 years in the GW.

I am surprised that there are still so many issues. Not nice.

Your 2019 was a first year truck. When I bought my 2020 and joined the forum, there were lots of posts from 2019 guys with all sorts of software issues. Having a Hemi is no exception to having issues.

 

[Willwork4truck]

Your 2019 was a first year truck. When I bought my 2020 and joined the forum, there were lots of posts from 2019 guys with all sorts of software issues. Having a Hemi is no exception to having issues.

I knew it was a redesign but the only concern was the 12" screen. The drivetrain was several years old.

 

[kapinallinen2]

When I bought my 2019 (build date April 2018, purchased August 2018) the 12" screen was not even available AFAIK.

 

[Willwork4truck]

I don't know when mine was built, bought in May of 19. Dealer had several Limiteds to choose from. I'd have preferred the 8.4" but wifey liked the other (had to be careful how I phrased that...).

 

[HSKR R/T]

I knew it was a redesign but the only concern was the 12" screen. The drivetrain was several years old.

The hurricane drivetrain is several years old as well. Been used in the Grand Wagoneer for two years before RAM started using it

 

[Willwork4truck]

The hurricane drivetrain is several years old as well. Been used in the Grand Wagoneer for two years before RAM started using it

Understand, but you'd think after 2+ years of production and years of pre-production trials some of those issues (cooling system/thermostat for example) could have been figured out.
An Autoweek article from March 25, 2022 stated "...The Hurricane engine was designed to meet current and anticipated emissions regulations. If the aging pushrod Hemi struggles to comply with future mandates, then the Hurricane could replace it with a lighter, more fuel-efficient, power-dense package.

Stellantis propulsion chief Micky Bly says the Hurricane will work well in every engine bay currently occupied by a Hemi, from Dodge Challengers and Jeep Grand Cherokees to Ram 1500 pickups and Chrysler 300s. The engine is intended for north-south installations in rear-drive vehicles and is compatible with Stellantis’ STLA Large and STLA Frame platforms designed for battery-electric vehicles.

In development for the past three years at the Auburn Hills, Michigan, tech center, the 3.0-liter Hurricane shares some of its DNA with Stellantis’ globally produced turbocharged 2.0-liter four-cylinder engine, including bore and stroke and cylinder spacing (see spec box below). Bly says less than 5% of content on the new Hurricane is shared with existing engines." (End of quote., bolding mine.)

The software glitches affecting 2025 RAMs could be vehicle specific, IDK.

It's the engine they chose for the reasons they chose it. Doesn't matter to me as I'm satisfied with my hemi, I'm just not a fan of smaller twin-turbo motors that continually get a real workout pulling these trucks and trailers. Seems like a lot of engine stress.

It will get sorted out eventually but still, RAM doesn't need self-induced toe stubs.

 

[RedFred]

Traded in my hemi for a hurricane. I loved the hemi. I put 207,000 miles on the last one with no issues. What I didn't want was the e-torque system. When the stand alone hemi (without e-torque) was no longer available, I found it impossible to pull the trigger on a new truck. I felt more comfortable going with the new hurricane than a truck with e-torque. Just my gut feelings. So far I got 6k miles on the hurricane and it has performed better than expected. Feels and drives like a big V8. The only thing I miss is the sound of the hemi. That's the one area the hurricane falls short. This being said, I would still welcome a return of a stand alone hemi V8 if it were to ever happen.

 

[Willwork4truck]

Traded in my hemi for a hurricane. I loved the hemi. I put 207,000 miles on the last one with no issues. What I didn't want was the e-torque system. When the stand alone hemi (without e-torque) was no longer available, I found it impossible to pull the trigger on a new truck. I felt more comfortable going with the new hurricane than a truck with e-torque. Just my gut feelings. So far I got 6k miles on the hurricane and it has performed better than expected. Feels and drives like a big V8. The only thing I miss is the sound of the hemi. That's the one area the hurricane falls short. This being said, I would still welcome a return of a stand alone hemi V8 if it were to ever happen.

A few things, 1st - You did very well getting over 200K out of the previous hemi w/o reporting tick/lifter/manifold issues. Does that mean you didn't have any?
2nd - I too was hesitant about the ET, especially since the early adopters had problems (2019-2020). It seems like after than there were not many reported issues. It has a long warranty anyway.
3rd - Great that you have 6K trouble-free miles on your 25 w/o reporting the misfire/surging issues.
4th - We likely won't see the "old" 5.7 hemi design coming back but there's a lot of noise about a 6.7 gas hemi, sorta' like Ferd did with their 7.3 gas "Godzilla". It had some teething problems as well but is generally a well liked engine from what I've read.

Enjoy your 25'!

 

[HSKR R/T]

It's the engine they chose for the reasons they chose it. Doesn't matter to me as I'm satisfied with my hemi, I'm just not a fan of smaller twin-turbo motors that continually get a real workout pulling these trucks and trailers. Seems like a lot of engine stress.

It will get sorted out eventually but still, RAM doesn't need self-induced toe stubs.

Seems you don't really understand turbo engines, and how they operate. Thinking they are worker harder than a N/A engine doing the same amount of work.

 

[RedFred]

A few things, 1st - You did very well getting over 200K out of the previous hemi w/o reporting tick/lifter/manifold issues. Does that mean you didn't have any?
2nd - I too was hesitant about the ET, especially since the early adopters had problems (2019-2020). It seems like after than there were not many reported issues. It has a long warranty anyway.
3rd - Great that you have 6K trouble-free miles on your 25 w/o reporting the misfire/surging issues.
4th - We likely won't see the "old" 5.7 hemi design coming back but there's a lot of noise about a 6.7 gas hemi, sorta' like Ferd did with their 7.3 gas "Godzilla". It had some teething problems as well but is generally a well liked engine from what I've read.

Enjoy your 25'!

1: I did have manifold issue that was repaired under warranty. Also it did seem to come back at start up years later, but I didn't bother to fix it out of pocket since it wasn't that bad (only lasted 10 seconds or so on cold start) and it did not seem to be getting worse. If it did become more noticeable I would have had it taken care of again.
2: The problem with the e-troque for me, is that I tend to keep my trucks for a long time. So the e-torque wouldn't worry me now, but more so down the road as a potential repair or problem when out of warranty. Other than that, I just don't think it really does anything beneficial or necessary, so I am more a fan of simplicity when possible.
3: No misfires on my 25. Actually took it to the dealer because an evap issue set off my cel. I thought it was going to be a misfire related because of other reports on the forum. They performed an update for the evap system and said there were no codes for misfires. I was kind of surprised and dealer insisted there were no misfires, which was a good thing. That was the one and only issue I had and it was literally a 15 minute visit to the dealership. They told me to stop in with no appointment and I was in and out.
4: Overall, I would prefer a V8 over a turbo charged smaller motor. But I can't really say anything bad about the hurricane.

 

[Bubba1120]

I feel the same. Bought a year end 23' because I didn't want a hurricane and got a great deal on an "unwanted" truck. Still no idea why it sat on the lot for 6 months, nothing is wrong with it and it's optioned just fine. It was one of 2 "leftover" units.
Worked for me....

I agree with you. I got a great deal on the 24 Laramie I have always wanted. I looked at the 25's, but my own personal choice is to not buy a new model with the new Hurricane, also I love the Hemi. I am hoping that with the leadership change with Stellantis, that they bring it back a newer version.

 

[RebellionisDuty]

JK. Huge investment. Go the way you feel comfortable. Your reasoning is sound. Nothing wrong with that.

 

[dajogejr]

4: Overall, I would prefer a V8 over a turbo charged smaller motor. But I can't really say anything bad about the hurricane.

I think we all take for granted.. fairly few people come to a forum to say… Hi there, my name is Fred. Everything is ok.

Most come to view/research similar issues or concerns they’re having.
I understand there are lots of reports of one thing or another.
But the numbers we don’t know easily are…how many are out in the wild, such as RedFred, who is doing just fine.
My 23 already had the rear end replaced, under warranty, because it was making a slight creak on take off.
Zero drivability issues, in and out in a day.
Already had the turn signal unit/clock spring, whatever it’s called now, replaced under warranty as well…same time I had the rear end replaced.

Point being.. a lot is luck, and there are plenty of happy go lucky driving out there without any issues…and we rarely hear from them.

 

[Willwork4truck]

Seems you don't really understand turbo engines, and how they operate. Thinking they are worker harder than a N/A engine doing the same amount of work.

Nah, never really understood my Ferd F150 2.7 twin turbo. It had good power and got pretty good mileage, just suffered when it got older. Check out some f150 forums on the early 3.5 and 2.7 before they were improved.
Turbos are great on larger cid engines like say, semis.
Not a fan of small displacement 4 and 6 cylinder engines that have to be turboed to make enough power.
My neighbors 2024 Chevrolet Silverado 4 cylinder single turbo gets 13-15 mpg average cause he's always into it to get anywhere.
Theres a lot of things I don’t understand, and being old, I prefer old iron. I’ll let the younger folk enjoy the complexity of turbos and electric cars.