How to tell which 2 inch (Mopar) lift I have in my 2019 ?

[AlbertaRam]

Hi All, I just picked up a 2019 sport and it has a Mopar 2 inch lift, fox shocks etc. The front center of hub to fender is 23-3/4(ish) and the Rear is 26 inches. I am unhappy with the amount of rake, and want to confirm which kit is on it. What visual cues or meaurements do I take to confirm if its the 1st version or the upgraded one? Truck has 650 kms on it and I have all the original parts (UCA's, shocks and stock rims/tires)

I'm going to Dodge on Monday and am debating level spacers or Bilsteins to make the difference up, but I want to make sure I know what I'm talking about before then.

 

[Ram1992]

Hi All, I just picked up a 2019 sport and it has a Mopar 2 inch lift, fox shocks etc. The front center of hub to fender is 23-3/4(ish) and the Rear is 26 inches. I am unhappy with the amount of rake, and want to confirm which kit is on it. What visual cues or meaurements do I take to confirm if its the 1st version or the upgraded one? Truck has 650 kms on it and I have all the original parts (UCA's, shocks and stock rims/tires)

I'm going to Dodge on Monday and am debating level spacers or Bilsteins to make the difference up, but I want to make sure I know what I'm talking about before then.

You could add ORP coil springs in the front.

 

[AlbertaRam]

You could add ORP coil springs in the front.

There's no problem with angles changing or anything? CV stress or wearing? Ride quality? (sorry for the questions this is my first half ton in years and there is a lot of overwhelming info when you search)

 

[Jeffjad]

There's no problem with angles changing or anything? CV stress or wearing? Ride quality? (sorry for the questions this is my first half ton in years and there is a lot of overwhelming info when you search)

Take some pictures of the front suspension and post them so we can better determine which lift you have. Judging by the amount of rake you have I would be willing to bet it's the old version. There are some options to get the front end a little higher. I personally have the updated Mopar lift with ORP springs and I have .5" of rake (25" front and 25.5" back). Does ride stiffer than stock but not horrible. UCA and CV angle are not bad.

 

[AlbertaRam]

Take some pictures of the front suspension and post them so we can better determine which lift you have. Judging by the amount of rake you have I would be willing to bet it's the old version. There are some options to get the front end a little higher. I personally have the updated Mopar lift with ORP springs and I have .5" of rake (25" front and 25.5" back). Does ride stiffer than stock but not horrible. UCA and CV angle are not bad.

here’s some pics, it’s not sitting level, my parking area has a big slope for drainage.
Tires are 295/65/20 Toyo AT IIs (35.1”)

 

[Clyde]

here’s some pics, it’s not sitting level, my parking area has a big slope for drainage.
Tires are 295/65/20 Toyo AT IIs (35.1”)

Looks like you might have the updated kit with the new shocks.
Reason I sat this is because you’re sitting (actually 1/4” higher) than my truck with the updated Mopar lift. I say you have the updated lift because I do not see any rings below the spring perch. (My truck has the rings and sits at 23 1/2” in the front).

 

[Jeffjad]

here’s some pics, it’s not sitting level, my parking area has a big slope for drainage.
Tires are 295/65/20 Toyo AT IIs (35.1”)

I would agree with Clyde on yours being the updated kit based off of your measurements and no extra perch ring. Only thing that still has me confused is why you still have that much rake. I am sitting at 25.5 in rear from center hub with mopar lift. Maybe they put the ORP springs in the back only for more rake......just a thought.

 

[Jeffjad]

here’s some pics, it’s not sitting level, my parking area has a big slope for drainage.
Tires are 295/65/20 Toyo AT IIs (35.1”)

Take a picture measuring like the one below.

 

[AlbertaRam]

I would agree with Clyde on yours being the updated kit based off of your measurements and no extra perch ring. Only thing that still has me confused is why you still have that much rake. I am sitting at 25.5 in rear from center hub with mopar lift. Maybe they put the ORP springs in the back only for more rake......just a thought.

I’m gonna have dodge do some homework before I go any farther. Although it was a very reputable dealership that did the install, it wasn’t my home shop and I want to be confident in what I have. On one of my other 1/2 tons the spacers were installed upside down and I lost a set of tires in under 10k.

The springs all still have their barcodes and part tags on them, does anyone know the part#s to tell if the springs are correct? I'm wondering because of a few little things like the fact that the bolts on the front shocks are usually installed with the nut towards the rear of the truck, not the front?

 

[AlbertaRam]

The front coils have a part# 68320236AB I cant see the back without climbing up under there. Doesn't the ORP #end in 48?

And can someone take a pic of the top of the shock with the spacer? Mine doesn't appear to have anything in there and I'd like to compare

 

[Jeffjad]

The front coils have a part# 68320236AB I cant see the back without climbing up under there. Doesn't the ORP #end in 48?

And can someone take a pic of the top of the shock with the spacer? Mine doesn't appear to have anything in there and I'd like to compare
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Mopar lifts don't have spacers at the top of the shock assembly. The only spacer with the mopar kit is the rear spring 2" spacer. The lift comes from the shock itself. The ORP springs part number ends in 49. (68320249AB or AC). Your lower shock nut is def installed backward. Might want to have your dealer give it a good once over.

 

[Jeffjad]

Mopar lifts don't have spacers at the top of the shock assembly. The only spacer with the mopar kit is the rear spring 2" spacer. The lift comes from the shock itself. The ORP springs part number ends in 49. (68320249AB or AC). Your lower shock nut is def installed backward. Might want to have your dealer give it a good once over.

 

[AlbertaRam]

Mopar lifts don't have spacers at the top of the shock assembly. The only spacer with the mopar kit is the rear spring 2" spacer. The lift comes from the shock itself. The ORP springs part number ends in 49. (68320249AB or AC). Your lower shock nut is def installed backward. Might want to have your dealer give it a good once over.

100% agreed

 

[AlbertaRam]

Mopar lifts don't have spacers at the top of the shock assembly. The only spacer with the mopar kit is the rear spring 2" spacer. The lift comes from the shock itself. The ORP springs part number ends in 49. (68320249AB or AC). Your lower shock nut is def installed backward. Might want to have your dealer give it a good once over.

Here’s a better pic of the rake. Which seems even more pronounced than stock

 

[Jeffjad]

Here’s a better pic of the rake. Which seems even more pronounced than stock

Yeah def something weird going on there. It is quite possible that you have the very original Mopar lift kit before any spacers were added and the updated kit came out. There are other posts on here where people talk about the original Mopart lift leaving alot of rake before mopar updated it. There may even be a TSB out there for it if I remember correctly.

 

[Ram1992]

Here’s a better pic of the rake. Which seems even more pronounced than stock

I Would bet you have the older kit. You can get that spacer installed and raise it about an 1".

 

[Bpramz]

Here’s a better pic of the rake. Which seems even more pronounced than stock

I have the same problem with my mopar 2" lift. The rake looks very similar. I called and complained to mopar and to my local dealer and they are replacing it with the new updated version free of charge. you should try and go that route.

 

[AlbertaRam]

Well, I got my answer, after running the Vin, the truck is a Rebel with sport trim. Never even heard of such a thing, but there it is. So they won't do anything to the lift and are saying it never should have been installed. Wish I'd known .

 

[Bpramz]

Well, I got my answer, after running the Vin, the truck is a Rebel with sport trim. Never even heard of such a thing, but there it is. So they won't do anything to the lift and are saying it never should have been installed. Wish I'd known .

I find that strange since I have a sport, pretty much the same truck in red. They are just making excuses. You can try and bring the Technical Service Bulletin to your dealership if your part # is 77072424 or 77072424AA. These are the earlier versions of the lift that create more rake.

 

[Bpramz]

Well, I got my answer, after running the Vin, the truck is a Rebel with sport trim. Never even heard of such a thing, but there it is. So they won't do anything to the lift and are saying it never should have been installed. Wish I'd known .

Also I’m pretty sure they don’t install in on the rebel mostly because it has air ride, and other off road things like hill descent control etc. If you don’t have these things then it forsure can belong on your truck if you have a crew cab and 5’7 box. I would keep bugging them