I have a Rebel on order and is suppose to be here by the end of the month. That being said, when I saw the Rebel 12 package come out with the 12" screen and HK system plus leather I was a bit disappointed in my order as I really want the 12" screen most of all. Although I had heard a lot of complaints on here of the HK not performing up to the level you would hope for considering the amount of power/speakers is has (however I do know thats pending the actual quality of the components like what the THD (Total Harmonic Distortion) that the amp has, etc). Just to satisfy my own curiosity today and decide weather I wanted to try to get the dealer to let me reorder, I went and sampled a HK and Alpine at a dealer side by side using same source (Pixel2 w/google play) and same song on both. I will have to say, hands down, the Alpine was my system of choice (my choice). It had more volume to it and a better low end tone/punch to it also. The HK did sound good, but just not as good as the Alpine in my opinion. I am not going to toot my horn but my opinion is from spending 17yrs in the custom car audio and electronics back ground. I walked away completely happy with my order cause even if I had it to do over, I would sacrifice getting the 12" screen for getting the better sounding Alpine. Best case for me would be the 12" screen w/Alpine combo, but thats not a thing as of yet.