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HEMI coming back to RAM 1500?!

Don’t think I would be happy with a 20 year old engine and call for celebration. And even if they did bring back the 5.7, it’s underpowered compared to the i6 engine. If they make any mods or improvements to that v8, it will just take longer for them to release it and cost money.

I have my v8 and I’m happy for them, but it’s time to move on to bigger and better thing here. My hemi is slow compared to other things out there…even battery powered ones.
 
I love my 2022 1500 Laramie 4x4 5.7 offroad package. Thing is in line 6 engines seem really reliable. I will be keeping my hemi for awhile but that in line 6 would not bother me .........except how do they sound?
 
The Hemi coming back will likely be a limited option, specifically in the more basic trims (as per Mopar Insider), it will fit below both the Hurricane SO & HO in terms of price and hierarchy within the engine lineup.

Not too dissimilar to Fords 2.7L, 5.0L and 3.5L lineup, but since the Hurricane S.O. is more powerful than the Hemi, it will be below both turbo motors in the lineup. If they get rid of the 3.6L (when not used as an EV extender), the Hemi will become the base motor.
 
arod412 said:
Don’t think I would be happy with a 20 year old engine and call for celebration. And even if they did bring back the 5.7, it’s underpowered compared to the i6 engine. If they make any mods or improvements to that v8, it will just take longer for them to release it and cost money.

I have my v8 and I’m happy for them, but it’s time to move on to bigger and better thing here. My hemi is slow compared to other things out there…even battery powered ones.
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I'd be okay with bigger and better. The problem is they went with smaller and (maybe or maybe not) better? I'm not ready to buy a new truck yet. Our 2020 Limited only has about 20k miles on it. Hell it still smells like a new vehicle inside. So I'd be okay with waiting for a better V8 to be developed.
 
Kentuckywindage said:
I love my 2022 1500 Laramie 4x4 5.7 offroad package. Thing is in line 6 engines seem really reliable. I will be keeping my hemi for awhile but that in line 6 would not bother me .........except how do they sound?
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I did test drove both…the high output is no joke just fast.

It just shows how dated the 5.7 engine is.

Im actually going to go away from any of the gas engines and will get a ram rev or ford lighting. Love my 6.4 and will keep that forever.



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well we see how that inline-6 is doing in a few years and out of warranty. i guess time will tell. i just don't see a twin turbo motor going big miles and i know this 6 has been in the grand wagoneer for a minute. they want you to trade in or up every few years so the secondary market will inherit the future longevity issues. i have said this a few times i drive a ltl truck and deliver to a few ram dealers parts guys they said they have had quite a few issues with the hurricanes. my friend has 220k on his hemi and it don't leak a drop of oil still has MDS and never had a cam/lifter issue, cracked manifold=yes
i've seen more than a few big trucks with cummings diesels not have a issue with over 500k on the turbo pushing 22psi. i just have never seen that in a gas motor. why is it that a commercial truck turbo will last and passenger car turbos don't?
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1791 said:
well we see how that inline-6 is doing in a few years and out of warranty. i guess time will tell. i just do see a twin turbo motor going big miles and i know this 6 has been in the grand wagoneer for a minute. they want you to trade in or up every few years so the secondary market will inherit the future longevity issues. i have said this a few times i drive a ltl truck and deliver to a few ram dealers parts guys they said they have had quite a few issues with the hurricanes. my friend has 220k on his hemi and it don't leak a drop of oil still has MDS and never had a cam/lifter issue, cracked manifold=yes
i've seen more than a few big trucks with cummings diesels not have a issue with over 500k on the turbo pushing 22psi. i just have never seen that in a gas motor. why is it that a commercial truck turbo will last and passenger car turbos don't?
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I hope that's an autocorrect error.
 
it was LOL i need to proofread better.:LOL:
 
i'll take my "oLd AnD oUtDaTeD hEmI V8" to alaska and Arctic all day and never worry about if it will suddenly stop working or something grenading the engine to the point it's not drivable over whatever "newer is better" that people are buying into these days.

i mean, it's a truck, it's not meant to be fast. that's why "fast trucks" were special and usually has other things to go along with it like... i don't know, offroad tuned suspension to make it special: big power and big suspension for desert play.
and yet, we have people trying to get trucks that have nothing special (not even suspension that can handle taking corners) and boasting about how fast it is... like if you want fast, get a Challenger/ Charger/ AMG/ M car/ Porsche.
 
re: cummins... it's a heavy duty engine and possibly falls under different set of emission rules. if that is true, then for sure it will run more reliable than the turbo 6s found on passenger vehicles and passenger vehicle derived trucks.
 
boogielander said:
i'll take my "oLd AnD oUtDaTeD hEmI V8" to alaska and Arctic all day and never worry about if it will suddenly stop working or something grenading the engine to the point it's not drivable over whatever "newer is better" that people are buying into these days.

i mean, it's a truck, it's not meant to be fast. that's why "fast trucks" were special and usually has other things to go along with it like... i don't know, offroad tuned suspension to make it special: big power and big suspension for desert play.
and yet, we have people trying to get trucks that have nothing special (not even suspension that can handle taking corners) and boasting about how fast it is... like if you want fast, get a Challenger/ Charger/ AMG/ M car/ Porsche.
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Thats what I really don’t get out of the 65k on my truck DD it all over the country for work I don’t think I have ever taken it it over 90 and IIRC that was maybe a once time occurrence. 395hp is plenty enough to DD and keep up with traffic and still pull when its needed. It’s a truck after-all. Now when I had my Charger… thats a different driving style but that was also my second vehicle and more of a toy. TRX aside let’s not act like stop light to stop traffic requires 500hp+ lol most will never really use that besides the occasional WOT to show off.


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PurpleRT said:
Thats what I really don’t get out of the 65k on my truck DD it all over the country for work I don’t think I have ever taken it it over 90 and IIRC that was maybe a once time occurrence. 395hp is plenty enough to DD and keep up with traffic and still pull when its needed. It’s a truck after-all. Now when I had my Charger… thats a different driving style but that was also my second vehicle and more of a toy. TRX aside let’s not act like stop light to stop traffic requires 500hp+ lol most will never really use that besides the occasional WOT to show off.


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exactly. i only took it over 90 like twice coming down from Montana on I-15 and then I backed off because i much rather enjoy the drive. 15k miles to Alaska and Arctic and back, not once did I go over 90. while I did go over speed limit, I did it on Dalton, Dempster, and Alcan with million potholes just to let my suspension stretch their legs.

TRX is built for desert play and to compete with raptors, hence the power AND the suspension. even then, a 5.7 with proper suspension and with a proper driver behind the wheel CAN keep up with raptors with average drivers behind the wheel.
but packing 500+ with no suspension to handle the trails or to handle cornering and braking... like what's the point lol going fast in a straight line in a non-competitive setting requires no skill and talent. if i want to go fast in a non-competitive setting, i want to go fast in straight line AND in corners, which is where a lot of those "i want big power" people fall short, i drive my M car to do it.

speaking of my M car, it is the ONLY M3 with a V8 in it and it's still better than the F&G chassis that followed with turbo straight 6. not as fast as those, but the engine sound and the overall driving experience is something a turbo 6 cannot replicate. probably also why it's a modern classic too.

probably gonna enrage a lot of those new engine enthusiasts but i said what i said.
 
boogielander said:
exactly. i only took it over 90 like twice coming down from Montana on I-15 and then I backed off because i much rather enjoy the drive. 15k miles to Alaska and Arctic and back, not once did I go over 90. while I did go over speed limit, I did it on Dalton, Dempster, and Alcan with million potholes just to let my suspension stretch their legs.

TRX is built for desert play and to compete with raptors, hence the power AND the suspension. even then, a 5.7 with proper suspension and with a proper driver behind the wheel CAN keep up with raptors with average drivers behind the wheel.
but packing 500+ with no suspension to handle the trails or to handle cornering and braking... like what's the point lol going fast in a straight line in a non-competitive setting requires no skill and talent. if i want to go fast in a non-competitive setting, i want to go fast in straight line AND in corners, which is where a lot of those "i want big power" people fall short, i drive my M car to do it.

speaking of my M car, it is the ONLY M3 with a V8 in it and it's still better than the F&G chassis that followed with turbo straight 6. not as fast as those, but the engine sound and the overall driving experience is something a turbo 6 cannot replicate. probably also why it's a modern classic too.

probably gonna enrage a lot of those new engine enthusiasts but i said what i said.
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PurpleRT, boogielander​

i totally agree i had "fast" cars to actually enjoy them on the street ya have to break the law, for me the 5.7 395 crank hp is more than adequate i got the truck because it's the new full size 4 door sedan and it can haul stuff in comfort i freaking love it.....
high mileage is a badge of honor to me, ya just want to keep going to see how many miles can i get out of this thing. i am committed to driving my truck as long as i can keep it together or till it falls apart. fact is the i-6 has good TQ and HP but the NA v8 should have never been taken away.
we are AMERICANS inventors of the great V8!!!
 
1791 said:

PurpleRT, boogielander​

i totally agree i had "fast" cars to actually enjoy them on the street ya have to break the law, for me the 5.7 395 crank hp is more than adequate i got the truck because it's the new full size 4 door sedan and it can haul stuff in comfort i freaking love it.....
high mileage is a badge of honor to me, ya just want to keep going to see how many miles can i get out of this thing. i am committed to driving my truck as long as i can keep it together or till it falls apart. fact is the i-6 has good TQ and HP but the NA v8 should have never been taken away.
we are AMERICANS inventors of the great V8!!!
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yeap. i'll do 15k miles solo runs to Alaska and Arctic even if my truck any time. I take care of it and do my maintenance on time every 5k miles. from what i've seen, NA will always outlast forced induction on passenger, non heavy duty applications. less stress on the block and internals. some people think S/C a 5.7 is a good idea, but unless internals are fully upgraded and tested, it's never a good idea simply because that block and the internals are not designed for forced induction. the very same reason why I won't S/C my 4.0 S65 on my M car, and I chose not to S/C my 4.0L V6 4runner.

the problem with modern straight 6 with boost is tolerance. build something like a 2JZ with that kind of precision and tolerance and it's indestructible and that'd be cool to have on our trucks... provided it comes with the suspension and the arms to go with it
 
I would love to see a V8 hemi back in 1500. Better yet, a 6.4 than a 5.7. I’d much rather have a large displacement naturally aspirated engine in a truck than a highly strung small displacement turbocharged engine. Get rid of pointless etorque and the start stop system. It saves absolutely minimal amount of fuel and is not at all financially viable. It costs more money to build it than it would save on fuel over 250k miles.
The current 3.0 twin turbo hurricane is great on paper but it is way over stressed already. If look at the quick back of the napkin calculation it makes 420/3 =140 hp per liter. This is way more than Fords ecoboost or GMs 2.7 4 cylinder mill. The HO version is even more stressed 540/3=180 hp per liter. If you plan on making any sort of modding or tuning, there is pretty much no safety margin left , it will not last long. Let’s see how long will the bearings, seals and gaskets last on those hurricanes.
 
As great as the Hurricane is on paper stat wise (besides the MPG), they just haven’t been out long enough to really test the durability (yes even in the Wagoneer blah blah) and most everything runs good when new buts let see in the long run…100K+ mark. Yea the Hemi is a dinosaur but let’s be honest with a little bit of research you can pretty much figure out what the common issues are and fix.. part availability will probably an issue with the I6 and last I heard they still haven’t figure out the whole misfire issue (its been how long now) but I guess its something as a new owner you’re gotta deal with.

LS have been around for quite sometime and I dont hear folks complaining about them being old but I guess it’s a Hemi thing.

Ive said it before.. had the 6.4 been an option in the 1500 I would have spent the extra money even if that meant dropping down trim packages to stay in budget. Mostly for the better low end torque since at the time I had the thought of getting a trailer travel to use on the road for work and get away from the whole hotel thing but I about talked myself out of that.

Next truck depending on my needs then may very well be a 2500 w/ the 6.4. Skip the diesel and diesel problems and additional cost and skips the Etorque crap that guys got scammed on buying into.


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