5thGenRams Forums

Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

Gen 5 A/S Holding up...

A4Owner

Active Member
Joined
Dec 29, 2020
Messages
156
Reaction score
32
Any '19 or '20 Ontario or Northern USA LTD owners still feeling good about their air suspensions? Supposedly they were upgraded in Gen 5 to handle cold weather better. Any truth to that?
 

J-Cooz

Ram Guru
Joined
Jun 28, 2019
Messages
965
Reaction score
738
2020 Ecodiesel Limited with 122,000km in Ontario. Zero issues with the air suspension and have been in temps as low as -30°C.



Sent from my SM-G781W using Tapatalk
 

A4Owner

Active Member
Joined
Dec 29, 2020
Messages
156
Reaction score
32
2020 Ecodiesel Limited with 122,000km in Ontario. Zero issues with the air suspension and have been in temps as low as -30°C.



Sent from my SM-G781W using Tapatalk
NICE. That sounds pretty good. Do you leave it in entry exit mode at night or not fuss around much with the heigh?
 

J-Cooz

Ram Guru
Joined
Jun 28, 2019
Messages
965
Reaction score
738
NICE. That sounds pretty good. Do you leave it in entry exit mode at night or not fuss around much with the heigh?
I just leave it..I don't use entry and exit mode much. A few times in extreme cold it's lowered down a little but then when I start it, it will go back to normal height.

Sent from my SM-G781W using Tapatalk
 

A4Owner

Active Member
Joined
Dec 29, 2020
Messages
156
Reaction score
32
Any use of that air line de-icing fluid the big rigs use or no?
 

A4Owner

Active Member
Joined
Dec 29, 2020
Messages
156
Reaction score
32
Oh yeah one more question should I get these things rust proofed? I drove Audi for a long time and never got them rust proofed.
 

Scram1500

Spends too much time on here
Joined
Jan 15, 2020
Messages
3,042
Reaction score
6,036
The 4th gen was open and pulled in moisture hence the freezing. The 5th gen air ride is sealed and filled with Nitrogen. Nothing that would freeze or cause oxidation.
 

6of36

Spends too much time on here
Joined
Jan 19, 2023
Messages
3,001
Reaction score
1,863
Location
Michigan
My dealer said they do still get them breaking, but probably a lot less on gen 5s. They said when they do go, the shocks are $2,500 each. I'm buying an extended warranty, that covers the whole truck, for the cost of one bad shock.
 

A4Owner

Active Member
Joined
Dec 29, 2020
Messages
156
Reaction score
32
Do the LTDs with a/s ride better than the Longhorns with a/s or the Longhorns with coils? I heard Longhorns with coils ride nice...
 

Reverse

Well-Known Member
Joined
Nov 11, 2019
Messages
357
Reaction score
379
I love the air ride on my Limited, and the ability to raise the truck when on unpaved roads or off-road. Having said that, the Limiteds are so expensive now that I would not buy one again. I did drive a non-air Big Horn as a loaner vehicle for a few days and it was fine as well. IMO, only spend the extra money if you want/need to raise or lower truck regularly.
 

SpeedyV

Ram Connoisseur
Staff member
Site Supporter
Joined
May 6, 2018
Messages
5,107
Reaction score
4,784
Location
Fort Worth, Texas
Do the LTDs with a/s ride better than the Longhorns with a/s or the Longhorns with coils? I heard Longhorns with coils ride nice...
They’re exactly the same (Limited or Longhorn with A/S). I have both A/S and the Off-Road Group, so they kind of balance each other.

The non-A/S trucks ride nicely, too. A/S just offers other advantages.
 

6of36

Spends too much time on here
Joined
Jan 19, 2023
Messages
3,001
Reaction score
1,863
Location
Michigan
They’re exactly the same (Limited or Longhorn with A/S). I have both A/S and the Off-Road Group, so they kind of balance each other.

The non-A/S trucks ride nicely, too. A/S just offers other advantages.
The suspension is the same with the off road group, with AS as the non off road group, with AS. You just lose 1 height, because normal on ORG, is same height as OR1 on a non ORG. Aero is the same height on both, and OR2 on a standard air suspension, is the same height, as off road, on the ORG truck.
 

Darksteel165

Legendary member
Joined
Dec 16, 2021
Messages
5,963
Reaction score
3,536
Location
Massachusetts
They’re exactly the same (Limited or Longhorn with A/S). I have both A/S and the Off-Road Group, so they kind of balance each other.

The non-A/S trucks ride nicely, too. A/S just offers other advantages.
Well a Limited only comes with air suspension. You can get coils on a Longhorn, but yeah both AS are the same when equipped.
Off-road group just reduces 1 level of adjustment with AS.
 

SpeedyV

Ram Connoisseur
Staff member
Site Supporter
Joined
May 6, 2018
Messages
5,107
Reaction score
4,784
Location
Fort Worth, Texas
Well a Limited only comes with air suspension. You can get coils on a Longhorn, but yeah both AS are the same when equipped.
Off-road group just reduces 1 level of adjustment with AS.
Yep. And yes, a Limited or Longhorn with A/S and ORG effectively rides in OR1 as its Normal, so there’s only one OR mode available. This is exactly the same as a Rebel with A/S. We had a long discussion on this in the early days of this forum, as the owner’s manual did not accurately describe this.
 

Darksteel165

Legendary member
Joined
Dec 16, 2021
Messages
5,963
Reaction score
3,536
Location
Massachusetts
Yep. And yes, a Limited or Longhorn with A/S and ORG effectively rides in OR1 as its Normal, so there’s only one OR mode available. This is exactly the same as a Rebel with A/S. We had a long discussion on this in the early days of this forum, as the owner’s manual did not accurately describe this.
Correct but also keep in mind the front end is aligned for the new "normal" which is the same as your "effectively OR1"
 

SpeedyV

Ram Connoisseur
Staff member
Site Supporter
Joined
May 6, 2018
Messages
5,107
Reaction score
4,784
Location
Fort Worth, Texas
Correct but also keep in mind the front end is aligned for the new "normal" which is the same as your "effectively OR1"
Sure. And the air springs have 4” of travel, regardless of other options. So on ORG trucks and Rebels, they’re just programmed to sit 1” higher in “Normal” than non-ORG/non-Rebels.
 

6of36

Spends too much time on here
Joined
Jan 19, 2023
Messages
3,001
Reaction score
1,863
Location
Michigan
Correct but also keep in mind the front end is aligned for the new "normal" which is the same as your "effectively OR1"
Precisely. That's why you can drive them top speed at normal, until it drops to aero, but if you raise a Limited to OR1, which is the same height as ORG or Rebel, when the truck hits 45, the suspension drops down to normal automatically.
 

ChrisID

Active Member
Joined
Dec 16, 2021
Messages
98
Reaction score
88
I've have 2, in Northern US climates. Laramie and Limited with air susp., both ORG. It is one of the major reasons I bought my first Ram's ever (after 10 GM's) because all trucks have been growing in bed load height, and I've struggled more and more loading dirbikes. Now it is easier, relative.
The only problem I had was on on my 21 Limited. at about 25K miles the air pump would stay on when starting it in the morning. them sometimes it would 'blow off' like you hear a big rig do, but much quieter. Dealer fixed it easy, said it just needed a re-charge. Assuming this was re-charging the closed nitrogen system? I don't remember there being mention of a leak. But it's been good for a while.
I love the air susp. and it's versatility.
 

Users who are viewing this thread

Top