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Ram Guru
Well I got the trailer on the Ram today and did a comparison to my Ford Expedition. Did a few acceleration runs for each category and then averaged them out for each vehicle. Would like to have had a couple of friends of mine bring their trucks over also, they would have but they are both gone till next week and my lift goes on my truck Monday so it wouldn’t be a apples to apples comparison so to speak. One of them has a 2018 F-150 with the 5.0, the other a 2015 Ram 1500with the Hemi and 3:21 gears, anyway, here we go!
Both vehicles towed the same trailer down the same stretch of flat road. Both vehicles in tow/haul mode and at normal operating temperature. Both are completely stock including tire size. All vehicles and trailer were weighed on the same local truck scales. Trailer weight: 7,480 pounds
‘17 Expedition EL ‘19 Ram crew cab 6’4 box
Gross vehicle weight: 6,260 pounds 5,940 pounds
Engine: 3.5 eco-boost 5.7 Hemi e-torque
Rear axle ratio: 3:73 3:92
Tranny: 6 speed 8 speed
GCW: 13,740 pounds 13,420 pounds
(Total weight of vehicle and trailer)
5-60 mph acceleration: 14.8 seconds 13.5 seconds
30-60 mph acceleration: 11.26 seconds 10.8 seconds
I did not start from a standstill, that’s why it is a 5mph rolling start. I am not a media group that gets to pick a truck off the lot, run the crap out of it, then take it back. I own these and didn’t want to break them!
I was really impressed with both, especially being 1/2 tons. They both handled the weight well, however, the Ram did feel more in control and less of a ‘tail waggin the dog’ feel that the expedition had. I felt the e-torque at take off with the trailer feels more impressive than without the trailer. I did ‘smash’ the Ram at a standstill with the trailer on and managed to spin a little. I then locked the rear axle and turned the traction control off and ‘smashed it again’. Probably won’t do that again, don’t want to see how good the warranty is yet, it hopped and felt very strong! That’s why the 5-60 mph test! Overall I do like the e-torque while towing. I had a hopped up diesel to pull this same weight and comparing to that, the e-torque honestly did better than I thought it might. Also, would have liked to have done a braking test but both vehicles are very different in this even in tow haul. The expedition just basically coasts unlike the actual pickups. I did like the downshifting of the Ram. It was very aggressive like my diesel was with the engine brake. So that’s my little test. Remember, I am not a professional! I would like to have more driving experience with older Ram 1500’s to make a better judgement on the ‘19. I know the Expedition isn’t a 2018 F-150 but what the heck. I am keeping notes to make a better review in about a week or so. Want to get some miles and real world experience on the Ram before I comment to much. Take this for what it is, just a country boy from Indiana having some fun!
Both vehicles towed the same trailer down the same stretch of flat road. Both vehicles in tow/haul mode and at normal operating temperature. Both are completely stock including tire size. All vehicles and trailer were weighed on the same local truck scales. Trailer weight: 7,480 pounds
‘17 Expedition EL ‘19 Ram crew cab 6’4 box
Gross vehicle weight: 6,260 pounds 5,940 pounds
Engine: 3.5 eco-boost 5.7 Hemi e-torque
Rear axle ratio: 3:73 3:92
Tranny: 6 speed 8 speed
GCW: 13,740 pounds 13,420 pounds
(Total weight of vehicle and trailer)
5-60 mph acceleration: 14.8 seconds 13.5 seconds
30-60 mph acceleration: 11.26 seconds 10.8 seconds
I did not start from a standstill, that’s why it is a 5mph rolling start. I am not a media group that gets to pick a truck off the lot, run the crap out of it, then take it back. I own these and didn’t want to break them!
I was really impressed with both, especially being 1/2 tons. They both handled the weight well, however, the Ram did feel more in control and less of a ‘tail waggin the dog’ feel that the expedition had. I felt the e-torque at take off with the trailer feels more impressive than without the trailer. I did ‘smash’ the Ram at a standstill with the trailer on and managed to spin a little. I then locked the rear axle and turned the traction control off and ‘smashed it again’. Probably won’t do that again, don’t want to see how good the warranty is yet, it hopped and felt very strong! That’s why the 5-60 mph test!
Overall I do like the e-torque while towing. I had a hopped up diesel to pull this same weight and comparing to that, the e-torque honestly did better than I thought it might. Also, would have liked to have done a braking test but both vehicles are very different in this even in tow haul. The expedition just basically coasts unlike the actual pickups. I did like the downshifting of the Ram. It was very aggressive like my diesel was with the engine brake. So that’s my little test. Remember, I am not a professional! I would like to have more driving experience with older Ram 1500’s to make a better judgement on the ‘19. I know the Expedition isn’t a 2018 F-150 but what the heck. I am keeping notes to make a better review in about a week or so. Want to get some miles and real world experience on the Ram before I comment to much. Take this for what it is, just a country boy from Indiana having some fun!Attachments
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