First Oil Change @ 1926 miles

[Jonnybow]

On the same note but different......
With small engines, I'll change oil after a few hours of operation because they are often sold with assembly oil in them.
I can't see anywhere pertaining to different oil being in a new truck and that it should be changed at a shorter interval than the normal.
Anyone else?

 

[Willwork4truck]

Giant oil wars and change intervals out there for your reading... opinions from every corner.
me I got mine (dino like came from factory) changed before 2K and once more at 5500. Now its on a 2x a year schedule due to low mileage. Nothing against synthetics, just don’t use them, no pressing need to from my driving style. Others push their rigs hard and need every bit of temp protection they can get, from front to rear (all fluids that can be synthetic).

 

[Glenn54]

How is your truck doing now? Any signs of oil burning or leaking? Did you have the compression checked after this happened?

I have a 2019 Laramie CC (Feb '19 build date) with 1926miles on it. I noticed when accelerating a few times it would was some what hesitant when WOT until about 2500rpm's then proceed as normal. I figured it was due to either ****ty gas or a dirty MAF. Before I started troubleshooting, I wanted to change the factory oil out since the sounded a little rough on the few cold mornings we have had. Took it to valvoline because I know the owner and he lets me use the bays plus its heated. I pull in and start doing my thing, pull the drain plug and just watched it expecting to be there for about a minute or 2. It drained in less than 15 seconds, thought that was odd but moved onto the oil filter. After all said in done, I drained out a little over a Quart?!?! ..... I was expecting some oil loss due to the new engine but was NOT expecting only seeing a little over 1 quart (mind you, no lights were popping up on the dash indicating anything was wrong). I put the new oil filter on (AMSOIL) and filled up 7quarts (AMSOIL SS) and shot over to the nearest dealer. The only thing he said for me to do is to make sure I have everything documented because only draining 1 quart did not sound right. I will say though, after driving it with AMSOIL and with it being filled to the proper levels, its a whole new beast.

TL;DR: First Oil Change at 1926miles, drained a little over a quart. RAM mechanic said thats doesn't sound right and to document everything just in case something happens down the road. Has anyone else seen this? I did do some searching but haven't found anything in regards to this. Thoughts?

 

[MudSticker19]

Sorry for late responses.. A lot has changed since I had last been on here.

No way the truck was running on 1 quart of oil...as @ramhead stated above...if you didn't actually measure it than your statement isn't fact and a ton of oil will drain out in 15 seconds or so. Did you also stop watch the time and it was really only 15 seconds? I think you are letting your imagination runaway a bit here in your post.

I understand why you think this but no exaggeration is being had.

To the OP, no disrespect in my thoughts directed at you at all.
The motor on a Harley Davidson will run on a minimum of 1 quart of oil if it has too. Not recommended. Mine has a 4 quart pan, 2010 Limited with an oil cooler. Just two cylinders on it. 38oz in the primary case and 32 oz in the transmission. 3 separate oil chambers. A physically small motor. That's the point I'm making.

I don't see how the Hemi can run on just 1 quart of oil. If you think about all 8 cylinders, lifters, top end and oil passages back down to the oil pan, the oil sump would not have enough oil to maintain even a minimum oil pressure. Your signature doesn't state how you are equipped. If you can put your vehicle info on the dash it will give you an idea of oil pressure, oil temp, trans temp and water temp. Keep an eye on what's happening under the hood.

I'm going to agree with ram head, security guy and my experience, warm, hot oil drains out pretty fast. Go back in your mind, again, and think about it for awhile.

I put a catch can on my truck. I get 2 to 3 oz every 1000 miles, I've been watching it close as this is a first for me. Security guy made a believer out of me, glad it's on there.

Lastly these trucks are an amazing machine full of all kinds of sensor's for all sorts of conditions. A far cry from my first one with the gas tank behind the seat, but it was easy to repair . . . . . . .

However I am a firm believer in checking the oil level with the dip stick every week, it's just my life long habit. It's even more important when the engine is still green, breaking itself in and you are learning it's personality. All of us are doing that with these trucks. I just turned 5000 miles on mine and its a good ride.

I hope you come out of this OK.

no disrespect taken. It might have just been a fluke from the dealership or maybe the drain cap was loose that I caught before hand. I just broke 10k and will be doing another oil change here soon. Placing my order with AMS as we speak. Will post

You never get 100% of the oil out of a motor with an oil drain. If you've ever torn down a motor after draining the oil you'll see just how much oil comes out of everywhere. So even if 1qt came out that was not the total oil in that motor. There was probably at least half a quart to a full quart hung up in the motor and pump and heads etc. Same goes for brand new engines will generally take more oil than what's listed on a full change. The only thing that matters is did he uncover his oil pickup and lose pressure, which presumably would have set off the oil pressure alarm which never happened. I bet it's a combination of there being oil stuck in that motor along with I bet more than 1qt came out bc he didn't measure it's hard to tell. I still believe he was ounces of oil away from disaster but it's entirely plausible that motor was running on 1.5qts of oil

Yeah, I learned that way back when I used to rebuild 4G63T almost monthly lol. I appreciate the additional information. This just caught me off guard but like mentioned above, i will be doing an oil change here and will be measuring the amount I drain again.

 

[MudSticker19]

How is your truck doing now? Any signs of oil burning or leaking? Did you have the compression checked after this happened?

So far, I haven't had an issue since the initial problem. I changed it AMSoil, 9000+ miles both city/highway, up/down the east coast, and a dozen trips back and forth from one side of PA to the other. Like I mentioned above, I will be changing the oil again soon and will make sure to post up.

 

[Rsorrell2]

Think he was lucky.

i changed my oil at 800 miles to go full syn as from the factory I think it is a blend and I also wanted fresh oil when I put on the oil catch can.

I know the dealers have specials and not everyone wants or can change their own oil, but I will from now on.

 

[bskubon]

Changed my oil on my 1500 Ram limited hemi at 1100 miles - firm believer to get that break in oil out ASAP. I went with conventional Valvoline. Heard ticking issues if going to full synthetic. I routinely change oil in all my vehicles at 5k intervals. Was 3k for years and years, but went to 5k intervals like 10 years ago.

 

[securityguy]

Changed my oil on my 1500 Ram limited hemi at 1100 miles - firm believer to get that break in oil out ASAP. I went with conventional Valvoline. Heard ticking issues if going to full synthetic. I routinely change oil in all my vehicles at 5k intervals. Was 3k for years and years, but went to 5k intervals like 10 years ago.

You heard ticking with full synthetic??? I agree with the 5K intervals and I, too, have been doing that forever. But, using regular dino oil I would have issues with...I have never used anything but full synthetic for the last 10+ years and it's cheap. Walmart has 5 quarts for $22. Not sure why you'd have ticking with full synthetic

 

[HoosierTrooper]

Valvoline Daily Protection “conventional” is actually a synthetic blend, pretty much all conventional oil has some synthetic base stock to help meet the previous SN+/GF-5 and now the new SP/GF-6 standards. Valvoline Daily Protection meets MS-6395 so it should work just fine.

I agree with securityguy, not sure why synthetic would cause ticking, actually don’t see how any oil could unless you’re using an inappropriate winter rating in extremely cold conditions.

 

[Firebird]

I swapped over to Redline 5w30 at 1200 miles, and my engine is silent

 

[mikeru82]

Changed my oil on my 1500 Ram limited hemi at 1100 miles - firm believer to get that break in oil out ASAP. I went with conventional Valvoline. Heard ticking issues if going to full synthetic. I routinely change oil in all my vehicles at 5k intervals. Was 3k for years and years, but went to 5k intervals like 10 years ago.

These hemi engines can tick, it's been well-documented. There are several types of ticks, which can be caused by many things. Synthetic oil isn't one of them. I've heard brand-new hemi engines tick for a few seconds on start-up on the dealer's lot. Use whichever oil you want. If you're comfortable with using conventional oil then use that. It's perfectly good oil. It may or may not save you money even. But what you heard about synthetic oil causing engines to tick was bad information.

 

[securityguy]

I swapped over to Redline 5w30 at 1200 miles, and my engine is silent

I am going to guess that you are WAY over paying for Redline oil...

 

[Firebird]

I am going to guess that you are WAY over paying for Redline oil...

Ordered from Summit racing, I dont have a supplier here in town

 

[securityguy]

Ordered from Summit racing, I dont have a supplier here in town

I have been using Pennzoil Platinum for years and buy it at Walmart for $22 for a 5qt jug. Every so often Pennzoil has a $15 - $22 off coupon or rebate to and I stock up. I don't think you'll see any better results spending any more than that.