Fabtech 4" lift for Rebel and 35" tires

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Truck looks great...maybe I'll have to pull the trigger on this instead of waiting for BDS :)
 

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I'm guessing they've dropped the diff using bracket adapters or bushings, but it still looks like they were only able to drop it enough to keep the CV's at the very edge of the angle range. Not sure how I feel about this lift, I think this is gonna be a pass for me. Truck looks good though, enjoy it!
 

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Truck looks great...maybe I'll have to pull the trigger on this instead of waiting for BDS :)
It's not actually a complete 4" lift with new spindles and drop brackets for the lower control arms and front diff. I would guess not even a true 4" probably 3.5" that they call a 4" with brackets to realign the front diff on the ragged edge of acceptable and uniball UCA's that'll be squeaking in a few months to handle the bad angles they'll be at. Fabtech makes this same " 4 inch lift" for other mfgs as well. It's just a glorified leveling kit. You'd be better off waiting on BDS to build a true 4" with some nice fox coil overs once they're available. This kit is basically a new coil over and upper control arm. You're better off waiting on fox or king to release a coil over. Just my 2 cents if you really want a proper 4 inch lift.
 

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It's not actually a complete 4" lift with new spindles and drop brackets for the lower control arms and front diff. I would guess not even a true 4" probably 3.5" that they call a 4" with brackets to realign the front diff on the ragged edge of acceptable and uniball UCA's that'll be squeaking in a few months to handle the bad angles they'll be at. Fabtech makes this same " 4 inch lift" for other mfgs as well. It's just a glorified leveling kit. You'd be better off waiting on BDS to build a true 4" with some nice fox coil overs once they're available. This kit is basically a new coil over and upper control arm. You're better off waiting on fox or king to release a coil over. Just my 2 cents if you really want a proper 4 inch lift.
Fox & King sure taking their time LOL. Good news is both Camburg & Bajakits have UCA’s designed, which I’m hoping means coilovers are dropping soon.
 

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It's not actually a complete 4" lift with new spindles and drop brackets for the lower control arms and front diff. I would guess not even a true 4" probably 3.5" that they call a 4" with brackets to realign the front diff on the ragged edge of acceptable and uniball UCA's that'll be squeaking in a few months to handle the bad angles they'll be at. Fabtech makes this same " 4 inch lift" for other mfgs as well. It's just a glorified leveling kit. You'd be better off waiting on BDS to build a true 4" with some nice fox coil overs once they're available. This kit is basically a new coil over and upper control arm. You're better off waiting on fox or king to release a coil over. Just my 2 cents if you really want a proper 4 inch lift.
 

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On another note how do your JBL’s sound Vs stock speakers...I see a lot of threads where guys say you need to be careful what are you switch to because of the way the truck is set up from the factory.
 

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Fox & King sure taking their time LOL. Good news is both Camburg & Bajakits have UCA’s designed, which I’m hoping means coilovers are dropping soon.
Fox really is, Considering they have a head start being they make the front replacement strut for the Mopar 2", they have dimensions and a pretty good idea of valving requirements, makes you wonder if they have some sort of agreement with FCA that they wont offer aftermarket stuff until a certain amount of time has passed with the 2" mopar kit on the market. Same thing with Billstein, I think they make the front strut for the rebel so they already a good amount of info to get started on some 5100's as well.
 

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On another note how do your JBL’s sound Vs stock speakers...I see a lot of threads where guys say you need to be careful what are you switch to because of the way the truck is set up from the factory.
I bought everything on sale through crutchfield so for 200 bucks it was well worth the upgrade on the Alpine system, not the best choice for the base 6 speaker systems because of the way its wired, guys were replacing just the dash speakers and complaining abou them being to loud or shrill, the factory dash speakers on the base system are 8 ohm with a low sensitivity and the JBLs are 2.7 ohm with a high sensitivity so they really over power the doors. On the alpine they are a 2 ohm speaker so swapping them with the 2.7 ohm JBL works perfect, at that point it's just a matter of preference, some like the infinity or JL audios, more of a personal preference to the type of highs you like, crisp and sharp like the jbl or softer like the JL audio. It's a lot more crisp and having a real tweeter in the dash speaker fills in the highs which IMO the Alpine is really lacking because the dash speakers are just a cheap 3.5" mid driver without a tweet. For the best sound utilizing the factory amp CDT audio would be the way to go but you'd be looking at about a grand to replace all the speakers except the subwoofer. The doors are what can cause ANC issues and you have to pay close attention to polarity to avoid ANC problems. For whatever reason the whole Alpine system is wired reverse polarity it doesn't cause much of a problem for the dash because they aren't used by the ANC system only the doors are.
 

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Fox really is, Considering they have a head start being they make the front replacement strut for the Mopar 2", they have dimensions and a pretty good idea of valving requirements, makes you wonder if they have some sort of agreement with FCA that they wont offer aftermarket stuff until a certain amount of time has passed with the 2" mopar kit on the market. Same thing with Billstein, I think they make the front strut for the rebel so they already a good amount of info to get started on some 5100's as well.
Agreed! Probably some non-compete contractual stuff going on for Fox & Bilstein... makes sense. If King is on board for the TRX we’re totally screwed :ROFLMAO::cry:.
 

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Lol I hope not. I wanted a set of Kings, I haven’t seen any Icons either.
Wasn’t ever considering an icon setup until I saw @expeditionoffroad (insta) running whoops in his new raptor with them. Unreal... looked like a 4 link truck!
 

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They don’t get as much publicity as King, but their stuff is legit. And their customer service is solid, unlike king who has some of the worst.
 

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Wasn’t ever considering an icon setup until I saw @expeditionoffroad (insta) running whoops in his new raptor with them. Unreal... looked like a 4 link truck!
Icon builds some pretty good stuff and they're aren't shy about charging for it either. But if you have have run Kings or Fox before, the icons are going to feel different because of their valving. Fox and King both run a linear valve set-up where Icon uses a digressive set-up. They both work but in different ways and there are trade offs for both. Linear shocks are softer off the top and provide a plusher on road ride and gett stiffer as you get further into the travel, digressive are going to be stiffer off the top and they soften up as you get further into their travel, If you look at a curve for both the rate will cross somewhere in the middle at this point they feel very similar beyond this point linear shocks will continue to firm up and digressive shocks will get softer. You need to decide what you plan on doing with your truck and choose the best shock, or if $ isn't a problem have someone like accutune offroad custom tune a set of shocks for your intended driving style.
 

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Icon builds some pretty good stuff and they're aren't shy about charging for it either. But if you have have run Kings or Fox before, the icons are going to feel different because of their valving. Fox and King both run a linear valve set-up where Icon uses a digressive set-up. They both work but in different ways and there are trade offs for both. Linear shocks are softer off the top and provide a plusher on road ride and gett stiffer as you get further into the travel, digressive are going to be stiffer off the top and they soften up as you get further into their travel, If you look at a curve for both the rate will cross somewhere in the middle at this point they feel very similar beyond this point linear shocks will continue to firm up and digressive shocks will get softer. You need to decide what you plan on doing with your truck and choose the best shock, or if $ isn't a problem have someone like accutune offroad custom tune a set of shocks for your intended driving style.
Wow... lotta info thanks (y)(y)(y)!
 
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I just dropped off my 2019 Ram Rebel at Fabtech for a fit check on their new 4" lift kit. They will be offering this kit to the public very soon. Fabtech does have the 4" lift for the 2019 Ram 1500 completed, but they wanted to see if any adjustments are needed for the Rebel. I will be posting pictures along the way.

My truck is a 2019 Ram Rebel, without air suspension. I will be adding Fuel Rampage 20x10 wheels with a -19 offset and Nitto G2 35x12.50 tires.
Do your 35s rub at all with this set up?
 

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Fox & King sure taking their time LOL. Good news is both Camburg & Bajakits have UCA’s designed, which I’m hoping means coilovers are dropping soon.
How do you know they have uppers designed? Seems like no one is making moves on the ram while GM already has set ups :(
 

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How do you know they have uppers designed? Seems like no one is making moves on the ram while GM already has set ups :(
emailed Icon and DM’d Camburg. Icon beta kit is on Scummy Morrison’s ‘19 rebel (now with a 4” spindle lift added, but you can see the truck before that in his insta feed to get an idea of stance)

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