EV charging - Rivian

[HSKR R/T]

Hmm. I still have my '02 Jeep. I traded my '12 Frontier for my Ram. I have an '04 Lincoln and a '03 Harley. I must keep vehicles too long.

There will always be exceptions. Statistics show 3-5 years is average time of owning a vehicle. I still have my 00 Dakota I bought used in 01. And my 99 Dakota I custom ordered from factory, and totaled in 01, I have a pickup bed trailer made out of.

 

[Mountain Whiskey]

There will always be exceptions. Statistics show 3-5 years is average time of owning a vehicle. I still have my 00 Dakota I bought used in 01. And my 99 Dakota I custom ordered from factory, and totaled in 01, I have a pickup bed trailer made out of.

You are right. Yes, there are outliers like my stuff.

The question remains as to what happens when the first owner trades the vehicle. They are still back in service with the original owner or a second. They don't meet the crusher in 5 years. Heck they have 8 year loans now.

 

[theblet]

I have a feeling more and more people won’t be buying a new vehicle Now because of the crap economy too. I traded in my 2005 Chevy Colorado on my ram.

 

[HSKR R/T]

I have a feeling more and more people won’t be buying a new vehicle Now because of the crap economy too. I traded in my 2005 Chevy Colorado on my ram.

As long as people are still doing leases to keep payments down, I don't see any change. Although with the chip shortage and highwrr values, leases aren't as lucrative as they used to be

 

[ben b]

You can't use Texas as an example. They have screwed themselves with the power grid and caused the issue there themselves. Poor management in the private power sector that is controlled by a single provider. And nothing has really been done to fix the problems identified two years ago, as evident by the issues they are still having this summer.

Also the "numbers" most deniers are using, to say the power grid can't handle it, are, worste case scenario, max charge rate numbers. Most of the time, you will never be charging your EV from zero, or low battery, at max rate. You will only be doing partial charges at reduced rate. Home chargers are not superchargers. It's a slower charge rate, which is better for the batteries.

I live in California where the electric situation is already so bad that the state runs TV ads asking people to minimize electric use between 4 and 7PM. This is their solution to provide "reliable" electricity. I suppose as electric vehicles become more popular they will extend their request to refrain from using electricity from 4PM to 9AM when the sun starts shining again.

Note that I am neither for nor against electric cars in general. I own both a Ram 1500 and a Prius Prime plug in. Both are superb vehicles for very different purposes. The Ram is for long trips and the Prius Prime is for daily commutes and errands.

 

[theblet]

I live in California where the electric situation is already so bad that the state runs TV ads asking people to minimize electric use between 4 and 7PM. This is their solution to provide "reliable" electricity. I suppose as electric vehicles become more popular they will extend their request to refrain from using electricity from 4PM to 9AM when the sun starts shining again.

Note that I am neither for nor against electric cars in general. I own both a Ram 1500 and a Prius Prime plug in. Both are superb vehicles for very different purposes. The Ram is for long trips and the Prius Prime is for daily commutes and errands.

I think this request would start happening in every state if all people were charging EVs at home.

 

[ben b]

I think this request would start happening in every state if all people were charging EVs at home.

I also have a small rooftop solar at my house. It generates only 50% the electricity in Jan vs July. Extrapolate this to utility solar generating plants and it seems like California will need people to cut their electric car driving during the winter. Expect the Northern states might have even more dramatic issues in winter.

Still, I am glad that hybrid and full electric cars are available. Everybody has different needs and can make their own choices.

 

[HSKR R/T]

I live in California where the electric situation is already so bad that the state runs TV ads asking people to minimize electric use between 4 and 7PM. This is their solution to provide "reliable" electricity. I suppose as electric vehicles become more popular they will extend their request to refrain from using electricity from 4PM to 9AM when the sun starts shining again.

Note that I am neither for nor against electric cars in general. I own both a Ram 1500 and a Prius Prime plug in. Both are superb vehicles for very different purposes. The Ram is for long trips and the Prius Prime is for daily commutes and errands.

California was doing that before Tesla and EVs were really a thing. Spent most of my 20 year Naval career in Cali. PG&E is worse than the Texas power company.