Driving in Neutral

[vincentw56]

Here is the video where i hit the person in front of me. Again, you can see right when my front tires hit the belt, i go into neutral, then there is definite power behind the truck as momentum could not do that.

So you aren't in the truck at that time? If you were, then why not hit the brakes? The truck was coming in really quick and the momentum kept it going and the belt pulling it increased it. It's simple physics. Unless it was still in gear, the rear wheels weren't driving it. I know you are trying to find an issue, but the issue is the driver and not the truck. Slow down to a crawl before getting on the belt next time.

 

[HSKR R/T]

So you aren't in the truck at that time? If you were, then why not hit the brakes? The truck was coming in really quick and the momentum kept it going and the belt pulling it increased it. It's simple physics. Unless it was still in gear, the rear wheels weren't driving it. I know you are trying to find an issue, but the issue is the driver and not the truck. Slow down to a crawl before getting on the belt next time.

I agree with this. In both videos he comes in way too fast before hitting the belt and doesn't stay on the brake long enough to stop momentum. Even after shifting into neutral, I keep in the brakes until I feel the belt start to pull me. And always pay attention to the gap with vehicle in front. He has plenty of time to hit the brakes to avoid hitting the vehicle in front of him.

 

[Ramjam88]

For everybody talking about momentum, this is not momentum. He clearly came to a stop, which means he has no velocity meaning no momentum. I have seen similar incidents that have something to do with the traction control. There is a reason they get those cars so close on the belt is because momentum has nothing to do with it if you come to a stop. Otherwise people would be hitting each other all the time once you hit the belt and are neutral. take it to the dealership as something else is going on

 

[HSKR R/T]

For everybody talking about momentum, this is not momentum. He clearly came to a stop, which means he has no velocity meaning no momentum. I have seen similar incidents that have something to do with the traction control. There is a reason they get those cars so close on the belt is because momentum has nothing to do with it if you come to a stop. Otherwise people would be hitting each other all the time once you hit the belt and are neutral. take it to the dealership as something else is going on

You must be watching different videos than I am

 

[Ramjam88]

In the first video you can see the wheel slightly go backward. Momentum isn’t going to make your truck drive over 6 rakes from a stop. Even if he “crawled” on the belt you might go over one rake. This truck appears to actually pick up velocity after getting on the belt

 

[TacoJ]

Thanks all. I was hoping there would be a known cause but seems like it’s a crap shoot. Also, I get it there was time to hit the brakes. The reality is, you don’t expect to move forward on the belt so I think I had turned to the back talking to my kids. By the time I felt like something was wrong and I was moving forward and looked ahead it was too late. I love my ram but feel like I’m in the movie maximum overdrive at this point!

 

[vincentw56]

Thanks all. I was hoping there would be a known cause but seems like it’s a crap shoot. Also, I get it there was time to hit the brakes. The reality is, you don’t expect to move forward on the belt so I think I had turned to the back talking to my kids. By the time I felt like something was wrong and I was moving forward and looked ahead it was too late. I love my ram but feel like I’m in the movie maximum overdrive at this point!

Maybe since your were distracted from talking to the kids you didn't put it in neutral at all. The truck didn't drive itself forward in neutral.

 

[DEG]

In the first video you can see the wheel slightly go backward. Momentum isn’t going to make your truck drive over 6 rakes from a stop. Even if he “crawled” on the belt you might go over one rake. This truck appears to actually pick up velocity after getting on the belt

No, the first video shows he had enough momentum when his front wheels hit the conveyer to carry his front tire over the ribs on the conveyer. His momentum slowed as his front tire climbed a rib, but he gained momentum as the front tire rolled off the front of the conveyer rib. Clearly, it was excess forward momentum driving him forward and not his rear wheels.

 

[Mgearhardt10]

Momentum is not the issue here. Clearly a driving force behind things. I see a stop in both videos. With all the RAM recalls lately, you probably have another “unknown” issues

 

[TacoJ]

Maybe since your were distracted from talking to the kids you didn't put it in neutral at all. The truck didn't drive itself forward in neutral.

Dang man. It’s all good just looking for answers. Appreciate the feedback

 

[DEG]

Momentum is not the issue here. Clearly a driving force behind things. I see a stop in both videos. With all the RAM recalls lately, you probably have another “unknown” issues

Yea, it was the force. More likely a non-existent issue.

 

[Dewey]

correct. brakes do not engage either.

I see you were in the drivers seat. Why didn’t you hit the brakes?

I would never use a car wash like that but if I did I sure as heck would have allowed WAY more space between me and the vehicle in front of me than that if I was the one controlling the distance. I’m not at all surprised by the result. Not trying to be judgmental just observing that it easily could have been avoided.

 

[Ramjam88]

2023 Rams have been known to have faulty ECUs. This can cause a delayed shift to neutral. I think there is even a recall on this. Might check that out

 

[dajogejr]

If it were me… two things. Slow down… I don’t care if the car wash guys get upset trying to pack more cars in.
Two.. brakes are brakes are brakes…and I would’ve been standing on mine, Nuetral or not, way before I got that close to a car in front of me.

 

[HSKR R/T]

Momentum is not the issue here. Clearly a driving force behind things. I see a stop in both videos. With all the RAM recalls lately, you probably have another “unknown” issues

Another one who isnt watching the same videos I see. There was no sropnin first video. Second video, his wheels stopped before he got to the belt, and appeared he let off the brakes to roll forward into the belt creating momentum that carries him forward because he didn't keep his foot in the brake long enough. These conveyor belt car washes are a lot better that the ones with tracks, but require a different technique when entering them. And the only way you should ever hit someone on a conveyor belt is not stopping when entering, or stopping at the end instead of rolling out.

 

[killerformula]

Next time when you hit the conveyer and put it in neutral shut the truck off. Can’t push you if it’s off.

 

[vincentw56]

Next time when you hit the conveyer and put it in neutral shut the truck off. Can’t push you if it’s off.

Then it will auto shift into park.

 

[HSKR R/T]

Next time when you hit the conveyer and put it in neutral shut the truck off. Can’t push you if it’s off.

The the truck will shift into park, and if the rear wheels aren't in convertor will cause whole car wash to shut down trying to drag the rear tires

 

[killerformula]

Oh wow, disregard then. My god the nanny features on this truck…

 

[rick619]

I go to a drive through wash and just keep my foot on the brake. I did feel like it was moving once when I took my foot off.

Though not sure if mine automatically engages the parking brake? Twice I've tried to go back to drive and just revving the engine, not realizing the parking brake got turned on. Last time I had a guy freaking out and honking at me, took me a second to realize it was on lol. Almost started a fight because he pulled up to my stall when I was drying it and was shouting something at me. I wasn't in the best mood at the time and shouted back at him.