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Don't need a 2500 Now

Redfour5

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Well, if I had waited three years, I wouldn't have needed to upgrade to a Hemi 2500. Just for the heck of it, I built a Big Horn with everything I wanted including the tow package, air bags, ram boxes, utility package, bucket seats 3.92 rear end lockers and LSD and big gas tank.

I pull an 8500 travel trailer with about an 800/850 fully loaded. I had both a 15 1500 Outdoorsman and a 21 Built to Serve. They both would pull the travel trailer and you were fine 95% of the time but you had to always keep your level of awareness high because of that 5%. AND, you were always watching payload with both of those in the 1300 lb range. I put airbags on the 2015, it helped. Didn't keep the 21 long enough with its 1200 payload.

When I got the 22 2500 Hemi, that all went away. I have 3,000 lbs of payload (no diesel) and 15K max towing. AND I can put whatever I want in the bed. Now the truck is always in charge and driving long distances is easy peasy, no fuss no worries well except for gas prices... But I'm relaxed and always know I have what I need under the hood...at 62,600 MSRP.

So, Now I am seeing the Hurricane SO and the max tow of 11,550 and the payload of 1800 lbs max AND I can get the airbags, LSD comes with auto 4WD and the big gas tank. So I built a Big Horn that came out to 61K 'MSRP" very nicely appointed to tow AND comfortable bucket seats even the generator and Ram Boxes (loved em on the 21). Another 2K and I could get a sunroof.

This set up now has the capability to tow my travel trailer with payload to spare and max tow weight and with the airbags I KNOW those things help a lot.

Almost wish I'd waited. I miss fourth gen 1500 cab sizes compared to the old, long in the tooth 2500 Cab. So do the dogs. And with the incentives right now evern with bad interest rates I would have saved money and had more stuff... The recent Tough Lane Trucks challenge with a hard core tow straight up on dirt roads at max weight (Cat skid steer/heavy trailer) above 90 degrees convinced me. The truck blew a light AFTER it did the pull... looks like the oil weight was the likely problem. ALL the other truck brands in the category failed some rather spectacularly. They've been doing this run beyond the Ike run for about a year or so.

I almost wished I'd waited, but I couldn't safely tow in the old 1500 with the Hemi non-aspirated (I live and travel above 5K almost always) and feel comfortable. I hate that few second adrenalin rush at least one or twice a trip when the trailer decides it wants to be in charge. We do around 10K a year on trips towing.

Anyone else have insights to confirm or squelch my hypothesis? Anyone doing something similar made the decision on a 1500 over a 2500 because of improve specs? LIked it? Didn't?
 
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I'm sure you know that the sun roof will take away from the payload. Our travel trailer is 26' from hitch to bumper and weighs all of 5,500 lbs ready to travel. I've installed air bags and 10 ply tires and it handles it really well. My door sticker payload says 1786 lbs. It's really more like 1350 with my steps, rubber bed mat, and the roll up tonneau cover.
 
As you know that 3/4 ton will handle the trailer much better in high winds or passing 18 wheelers. I know they are making these 1/2 tos more capable but they still weigh the same and will get pushed around. I jut traded my 2500 diesel in but all I pull is a 21ft bay boat. If I had an RV I would have kept it.
 
Gotta' watch payload numbers if you get a 2500 diesel. Sometimes not much better than a low trim1500.
A 6.4 2500 isn't the same towing performance as the 6.7 diesel but a lot of potential mechanical/fluid savings to save. Gas = no emissions dpf etc...
Now add in higher elevations (diesel = turbo) and the engine braking, back to favoring diesel for relaxing towing experiences.

It's not an easy choice. Well, cost does have something to do with it. This local dealer has nearly a $5K premium for diesel, which really isn't bad. Both are 2024 Bighorn 4x's...

2024 2500 Gasser:
MSRP $68,700
2024 Bonus Cash $1,000
2024 South BC Bonus Cash $1,000
Dealer Discount $3,729
Sale Price $62,971

2024 6.7 2500 diesel:
MSRP $73,845
2024 Bonus Cash $1,000
2024 South BC Bonus Cash $1,000
Dealer Discount $4,122
Sale Price $67,723
 
You're not going to get "max tow" numbers. Those are marketing values only. By the time you open the door jamb of a 2025 bighorn with sunroof, ramboxs, generator, 4x4 etc, you'll be in the 1300 to 1500 pound territory.

You cannot compare a 1/2 ton to a 3/4 ton truck. The 3/4 ton will output your trailer significantly. 8000 pounds is pushing it for any half ton.
 
You're not going to get "max tow" numbers. Those are marketing values only. By the time you open the door jamb of a 2025 bighorn with sunroof, ramboxs, generator, 4x4 etc, you'll be in the 1300 to 1500 pound territory.

You cannot compare a 1/2 ton to a 3/4 ton truck. The 3/4 ton will output your trailer significantly. 8000 pounds is pushing it for any half ton.
Yep, just because it will pull the load (with some suspension mods that don't change payload), it doesn't mean it will control the load...
Tail wagging the dog syndrome.
But I get it. Peeps want the ride of a 1500, and the cost savings (although mods eat that up quickly).
I've always over-trucked when I was towing and never regretted it. The ride on my SRW 1 ton sucked but I never had a care as far as which part faced forward...
 

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