Do the 22 inch wheels reduce payload?

[B52RAM1500]

Do 22 inch wheels reduce payload capacity?

 

[cj7]

No, as long as the individual load rating, times two, is greater than 4100.

Load index 106 is 2,093 pounds, so you’d need that or greater.

Most tires you can buy in that size will have a load index of 106 or greater. FCA original equipment tires exceed the load requirements, so you’d be able to load up to the advertised vehicle capacity.

 

[B52RAM1500]

Thank you! I am a first time truck buyer and am learning so much. My load rating is XL 114 (2,600lbs)

 

[WhattheTruck!]

Yes, it is actually possible that it will reduce available payload due to the overall GVWR. It might not impact what your truck is 'capable' of carrying, but I'd be curious if anyone knows the difference between the stock 22" weight vs the stock 18" weight? My quick google-fu ended up with nothing.

 

[IvoryHemi]

I agree the 22” wheels will reduce payload, since the added weight counts towards GVWR

 

[cj7]

I agree the 22” wheels will reduce payload, since the added weight counts towards GVWR

How? You’re saying that a 22” rim and tire weighs more than a 20” rim and tire of the same diameter?? Sorry, that’a not meaningful in this context.

Tires and rims have a wide range of weights. A cheap 18” steel MOPAR rim weighs 30#, the cheap RAM 1500 18” alloy spare rim weights 20#, and the OEM fancy rims are in the mid-twenties +\~. Tire weights for applicable sizes weight between 20 and 60#. So I can get a 22 that weighs less than a 18” tire+wheel, or twice as much. And vice-versa.

But none of this is helping the OP, as it’s within the scale’s margin of error, and not a product of rim diameter. Next I’m expecting to hear that balanced tires reduce payload...and going to the bathroom increases it

The (meaningfully) correct answer is still No.

 

[IvoryHemi]

How? You’re saying that a 22” rim and tire weighs more than a 20” rim and tire of the same diameter?? Sorry, that’a not meaningful in this context.

Say curb weight on 7,100 GVWR truck with 20” wheels is 5,600 lbs, that would mean 1,500 lbs payload (7100 - 5600)

If the 22” wheels weigh 50 lbs more than the 20” wheels, then that would make the curb weight 5,650 lbs, reducing payload to 1,450 lbs. (7100 - 5650)

 

[WhattheTruck!]

My reply was simply stating the fact that total vehicle weight impacts the available payload given you have to operate within the GVWR. I'm not sure if there is a difference in the weight of oem 18s vs 22s, I couldn't find any relevant Information either way.

 

[cj7]

Say curb weight on 7,100 GVWR truck with 20” wheels is 5,600 lbs, that would mean 1,500 lbs payload (7100 - 5600)

If the 22” wheels weigh 50 lbs more than the 20” wheels, then that would make the curb weight 5,650 lbs, reducing payload to 1,450 lbs. (7100 - 5650)

My point is, you cannot assume 22” rims and tires weight more than 20s or 18s. Bad assumption. The 22” OEM wheel+tire weighs less than the OEM 18”s with WildPeaks.

Of course, more weight means less payload. But that’s not the question.

 

[bwsRam19]

wgaf

 

[DevinB]

If you can wait a few weeks, I'll tell you for sure with pics. I ordered a Limited that comes stock with 22's that I'm having the dealer swap with OEM 20's. Gonna sell the 22's. Dealer said they would weigh each wheel and tire and let me know the difference for payload variance. Will pass on. I'm also gonna weigh the 22's at my house before I crate them up to sell/ship. Will take some pics for ya.

 

[Idaho970]

I have a Laramie Night Edition with the 22s and my truck is rated for 11k lbs towing. 3.92 rears.


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[IvoryHemi]

I have a Laramie Night Edition with the 22s and my truck is rated for 11k lbs towing. 3.92 rears.


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That doesn’t help determine if 22’s cause a reduction in payload capacity

 

[Idaho970]

That doesn’t help determine if 22’s cause a reduction in payload capacity

Towing capacity is based off the the weakest point in any vehicle. Sometimes it is the brakes, sometimes it’s the engine or transmission cooling capacity.

If you look at any of the towing charts published by Ram, none of them have a separate line item for wheels.

Side note, Ram is currently the only manufacturer that uses SAE J2807 standards for verifying towing and payload capacity. What that means it is a true third party verification of what the trucks capacity is. Conversely, Ford and GM create their capacities “in house” under unknown and non-certified conditions.

If you are ever curious what the TO THE POUND Paulo’s and towing capacity is on any specific Ram truck, reach out to a certified Fleet Manager/Commercial Specialist at a Ram dealer. They can plug any VIN in to OS+ to generate VIN specific ratings, and can even run a simulation to show if you will overload your truck when taking into account passengers/cargo/accessories and a trailer.

IvoryHemi, while you are correct my comment didn’t “answer” the question, I was simply trying to point out that my truck has 22s and is almost at the top of the 1500s published towing capacity. However, I hope my above comments helped in some way.


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[DevinB]

wgaf

Love posts like this. apparently you do, enough to use your time to come in here just to say that.

 

[bwsRam19]

Love posts like this. apparently you do, enough to use your time to come in here just to say that.

No, I only came to that conclusion after reading through the posts, thanks.

 

[DevinB]

No, I only came to that conclusion after reading through the posts, thanks.

Welcome

 

[B52RAM1500]

If you can wait a few weeks, I'll tell you for sure with pics. I ordered a Limited that comes stock with 22's that I'm having the dealer swap with OEM 20's. Gonna sell the 22's. Dealer said they would weigh each wheel and tire and let me know the difference for payload variance. Will pass on. I'm also gonna weigh the 22's at my house before I crate them up to sell/ship. Will take some pics for ya.

Thank you! Looking forward to seeing the difference!

 

[DevinB]

Thank you! Looking forward to seeing the difference!

Update. Welp...not what I was expecting. Don't have the truck yet but it's ready and the dealer weighed the wheels (wheels + tires) of the 22" take-offs and the 20" (wheels + tires) OEM's that I bought......both weighed 83 lbs...said they weighed them twice after smirking.

The tires for each are:

48.1 lbs for the 20 " Falken A/T3WA tire 275/55R20
Source: https://www.falkentire.com/tires/light-truck-suv-cuv-tires/wildpeaka/t3w-tire

and

45 lbs for the 22" Goodyear Eagle Touring 285/45R22
Source: https://tiresize.com/tires/Goodyear...e 285/45R22 Goodyear Eagle,width of 9.5-10.5".

So that means the wheel-alone weights would be:

83 - 48.1 = 34.9 lbs for the 20" Black OEM wheels that come stock on the Laramie Night Edition with Off-Road Package

and

83 - 45 = 38 lbs for the 22" Black OEM wheels that come stock on the Limited Night Edition (like mine)

So ....final answer would be...NOPE. Payload isn't really affected at all with OEM options in this case, though of course it'll depend on your tire selection. Even then it would be pretty negligible...

I'll still weigh the 22" wheel/tire take-offs when I get them home just to verify what the dealer did. Will reply-back here.

 

[B52RAM1500]

Update. Welp...not what I was expecting. Don't have the truck yet but it's ready and the dealer weighed the wheels (wheels + tires) of the 22" take-offs and the 20" (wheels + tires) OEM's that I bought......both weighed 83 lbs...said they weighed them twice after smirking.

The tires for each are:

48.1 lbs for the 20 " Falken A/T3WA tire 275/55R20
Source: https://www.falkentire.com/tires/light-truck-suv-cuv-tires/wildpeaka/t3w-tire

and

45 lbs for the 22" Goodyear Eagle Touring 285/45R22
Source: https://tiresize.com/tires/Goodyear/Eagle-Touring-285-45R22.htm#:~:text=The 285/45R22 Goodyear Eagle,width of 9.5-10.5".

So that means the wheel-alone weights would be:

83 - 48.1 = 34.9 lbs for the 20" Black OEM wheels that come stock on the Laramie Night Edition with Off-Road Package

and

83 - 45 = 38 lbs for the 22" Black OEM wheels that come stock on the Limited Night Edition (like mine)

So ....final answer would be...NOPE. Payload isn't really affected at all with OEM options in this case, though of course it'll depend on your tire selection. Even then it would be pretty negligible...

I'll still weigh the 22" wheel/tire take-offs when I get them home just to verify what the dealer did. Will reply-back here.

Thank you Devin, great info to know!