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Can... he... tow it?

@31RamIt your making the truck work but not necessarily pushing the limits.

What they other members are saying is that anytime you change something it can effect the payload. Adding SPRUNG weight (weight that is above the springs) decreases the payload...heavier wheels do not as that is UNSPRUNG weight. The springs compression rate has a lot to do with the cargo capacity as well as the design of the truck its self. IE where the springs are mounted, how the vehicle reacts to weight, ect, ect. All of that is taken into account from the manufacturer to give you your cargo capacity. Unless something has changed the weight of a 150lbs driver and a full tank of fuel are already accounted for by the manufacturer and DO NOT take away from the payload. The weight of a wdh DOES since it is adding UNSPRUNG weight. The purpose of a wdh is to redistribute the load on the rear of the truck to the front axle of the truck, and the TT axle(s). The wdh does not take any weight away from the payload impact of the wdh + the tongue weight. (IE wdh = 90lbs // tongue= 700lbs you combine those and subtract that from your payload.)

towing and payload are a bit of a hornets nest..especially on forums. There is a lot of skepticism on where an owner can ADD to the payload with HD springs. Im not an expert and I always choose to air on the side of what I can afford...which aint much. So despite the cargomax springs advertising to add payload, I will always still operate inside the manufacturers stated payload and limitations. That being said the TT your looking to pull still fits within the stated limitations. The airbags and all just help the truck handle it better.
 
@31RamIt your making the truck work but not necessarily pushing the limits.

What they other members are saying is that anytime you change something it can effect the payload. Adding SPRUNG weight (weight that is above the springs) decreases the payload...heavier wheels do not as that is UNSPRUNG weight. The springs compression rate has a lot to do with the cargo capacity as well as the design of the truck its self. IE where the springs are mounted, how the vehicle reacts to weight, ect, ect. All of that is taken into account from the manufacturer to give you your cargo capacity. Unless something has changed the weight of a 150lbs driver and a full tank of fuel are already accounted for by the manufacturer and DO NOT take away from the payload. The weight of a wdh DOES since it is adding UNSPRUNG weight. The purpose of a wdh is to redistribute the load on the rear of the truck to the front axle of the truck, and the TT axle(s). The wdh does not take any weight away from the payload impact of the wdh + the tongue weight. (IE wdh = 90lbs // tongue= 700lbs you combine those and subtract that from your payload.)

towing and payload are a bit of a hornets nest..especially on forums. There is a lot of skepticism on where an owner can ADD to the payload with HD springs. Im not an expert and I always choose to air on the side of what I can afford...which aint much. So despite the cargomax springs advertising to add payload, I will always still operate inside the manufacturers stated payload and limitations. That being said the TT your looking to pull still fits within the stated limitations. The airbags and all just help the truck handle it better.
This is more intuitive for me, thank you. I think I will get the trailer and give her a go. I think it will be okay, but if it isn't I guess I have an excuse to get a 2500 :D
 
Like he said, you're on a forum, and you're getting differing information. The only way to ever increase the Manufacturer's listed payload of your current truck is to sell it and buy a truck with a larger payload. Adding springs, airbags, and stiffer tires will only help the truck feel better while carrying/towing heavy. Despite what sprung or unsprung weight may be on your truck, it has a GVWR that is a legally defined number. Payload = GVWR - Curb Weight (truck with all fluids and zero passenger weight).

Without giving us the payload from your door jamb sticker we're all just playing guessing games.
 
Like he said, you're on a forum, and you're getting differing information. The only way to ever increase the Manufacturer's listed payload of your current truck is to sell it and buy a truck with a larger payload. Adding springs, airbags, and stiffer tires will only help the truck feel better while carrying/towing heavy. Despite what sprung or unsprung weight may be on your truck, it has a GVWR that is a legally defined number. Payload = GVWR - Curb Weight (truck with all fluids and zero passenger weight).

Without giving us the payload from your door jamb sticker we're all just playing guessing games.
I understand that. I'm just not home to get it or I would.
 

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