AGS Removal - Rebel

[popcenator]

I'm looking to remove the grill shutters. I'm doing this to get some more benefit from the Vararam, and to keep the engine cooler. After removing the piece right above the grill, it looks like I may be able to remove the shutters without taking apart half of the front end. I'm not sure if the Rebel has more room behind the grill than the other models but just wondering if anyone else with the Rebel has done so.

Also, can someone please move this to the Rebel subforum since I'm a doofus.

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[dts828]

I'm looking to remove the grill shutters. I'm doing this to get some more benefit from the Vararam, and to keep the engine cooler. After removing the piece right above the grill, it looks like I may be able to remove the shutters without taking apart half of the front end. I'm not sure if the Rebel has more room behind the grill than the other models but just wondering if anyone else with the Rebel has done so.

Also, can someone please move this to the Rebel subforum since I'm a doofus.

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Could you just disconnect the linkage from the motor at the bottom leaving them in the fully open position?

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[popcenator]

Could you just disconnect the linkage from the motor at the bottom leaving them in the fully open position?

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From what I've read, it'll throw a CEL. A lot of people just remove the middle 4 shutters, leaving the top and bottom to prevent the CEL.

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[mikeru82]

Just a question...on the 4th gens, the Rebel models don't have the active grille shutters. Are you sure yours has them?

 

[dts828]

Just a question...on the 4th gens, the Rebel models don't have the active grille shutters. Are you sure yours has them?

My 5th gen has them

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[dts828]

From what I've read, it'll throw a CEL. A lot of people just remove the middle 4 shutters, leaving the top and bottom to prevent the CEL.

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Okay just an idea, I thought it would only throw code if you disconnected the wire harness to the motor. I figured with the linkage disconnected it would be able to fool it enough.

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[popcenator]

Okay just an idea, I thought it would only throw code if you disconnected the wire harness to the motor. I figured with the linkage disconnected it would be able to fool it enough.

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I know the motor is looking for a certain range from the arm, and part of that requires movement from at least the top shutter. I'm going to look at it closer tomorrow to be sure.

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[Nails]

The motor will still have to move its total “sweep” how ever you delete it

 

[popcenator]

To answer my own question, yes you can remove the shutters without removing the grill. I got all but two removed to keep the CEL off. I took the truck for a short spin and it seems to move a little easier especially in the upper RPMs. It's pretty windy today so I couldn't get a true 0-60. I've only tried once to get a 0-60 before with the VR on and that was 6.1 seconds.

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[MurdaRam]

To answer my own question, yes you can remove the shutters without removing the grill. I got all but two removed to keep the CEL off. I took the truck for a short spin and it seems to move a little easier especially in the upper RPMs. It's pretty windy today so I couldn't get a true 0-60. I've only tried once to get a 0-60 before with the VR on and that was 6.1 seconds.

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Can you post steps on how you did it and pics if possible? Didn’t know it was possible without taking off the grille. Thanks!

 

[popcenator]

Can you post steps on how you did it and pics if possible? Didn’t know it was possible without taking off the grille. Thanks!

I'll see if I can get some pictures. The Rebel grille gives you enough space to work, I'm not sure about the other grilles. It is kind of a tight squeeze, but it was better than taking the front end apart in my opinion.

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[M2k]

I'll see if I can get some pictures. The Rebel grille gives you enough space to work, I'm not sure about the other grilles. It is kind of a tight squeeze, but it was better than taking the front end apart in my opinion.

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I did the same mod on a 21 big horn.

Active Grill Shutter Removal

This post is for anybody interested in removing your Active Grill Shutter (AGS) system. In my case, I tow the boat a lot and I'm honestly not comfortable with the oil and coolant running 225-230 degrees pretty much all the time, especially not when it gets up to 238 while towing. The first...

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I left the two middle slats but still got a CEL. The OP hasn’t been back here since February. There doesn’t seem to be anything restricting its movement.

Are you still CEL free? I’m going to try Alfaobd again today to see if there are any settings to delete there and will post an update.

I’m surprised there is so little info on this in the 5th gens. The advantages far outweigh the CAFE 0.5 mpg increase from this, especially for rebels.

 

[popcenator]

I did the same mod on a 21 big horn.

Active Grill Shutter Removal

This post is for anybody interested in removing your Active Grill Shutter (AGS) system. In my case, I tow the boat a lot and I'm honestly not comfortable with the oil and coolant running 225-230 degrees pretty much all the time, especially not when it gets up to 238 while towing. The first...

5thgenrams.com

I left the two middle slats but still got a CEL. The OP hasn’t been back here since February. There doesn’t seem to be anything restricting its movement.

Are you still CEL free? I’m going to try Alfaobd again today to see if there are any settings to delete there and will post an update.

I’m surprised there is so little info on this in the 5th gens. The advantages far outweigh the CAFE 0.5 mpg increase from this, especially for rebels.

I am still CEL free. I left the middle and the very bottom one on. I've tried a couple different combinations and those triggered the CEL. This combo seems to keep the system happy.

 

[M2k]

Thank you! Unfortunately I have to pull the front end off again lol

 

[LaxDfns15]

I did the same mod on a 21 big horn.

Active Grill Shutter Removal

This post is for anybody interested in removing your Active Grill Shutter (AGS) system. In my case, I tow the boat a lot and I'm honestly not comfortable with the oil and coolant running 225-230 degrees pretty much all the time, especially not when it gets up to 238 while towing. The first...

5thgenrams.com

I left the two middle slats but still got a CEL. The OP hasn’t been back here since February. There doesn’t seem to be anything restricting its movement.

Are you still CEL free? I’m going to try Alfaobd again today to see if there are any settings to delete there and will post an update.

I’m surprised there is so little info on this in the 5th gens. The advantages far outweigh the CAFE 0.5 mpg increase from this, especially for rebels.

I removed mine several hundred (400+) miles ago. I only did the top 2 slats since that's all I needed for the Vararam scoop. Haven't gotten a CEL yet.

 

[M2k]

Popcenator,

Just to reconfirm before I reassemble, below is what you did?


Middle and bottom still in place and no CEL?
Did the CEL clear itself?
Thanks

 

[popcenator]

Popcenator,

Just to reconfirm before I reassemble, below is what you did?

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Middle and bottom still in place and no CEL?
Did the CEL clear itself?
Thanks

Sorry I just saw this but yeah that's what I did. I can't remember if I cleared the CEL myself or if it went away. I think I may have cleared it myself with the T2. It may go away though once it does it's first check/cycle.

 

[ayoslickxd]

i removed my shutters and i dont get any codes i just took the motor out and reconnected it to wire harness and ziptied it because of my aftermarket bumper

 

[M2k]

Happy to report my CEL is out after three key cycles. Thanks for your help!

 

[LaxDfns15]

So if it just turned off by itself know that it's still stored in the system until cleared. If you take it to the dealer, and they look through the system they'll see there was a code and know that you messed with it.