87 vs 89 vs 93 (again)

[MontFla]

Does Costco fuel contain additives? When my son was having issues with his GMC a trusted mechanic asked him what brand gas he used, which was Kroger. The mechanic told me stations like Kroger, Sams, Costco and the like buy fuel without all the additives therefore that's why it's cheaper.

Of course this came from a mechanic associated with a BP dealership so this may be fake news but I do trust the guy and when my son filled up with BP gas the problem went away. And I'm not a fuel expert so I don't even know what additives he was talking about!!

I really do not know. My truck did not mind Costco fuel

 

[Trooper4]

Used to drive by a refinery once in a while, and there were Arco trucks filling up in the same bay as a Mobile. Always mixed trucks filling with the same truck. Only difference was the additive they put in after filling.

All Gas Is the Same (Up to a Point)
However, each company is required by law to put additives in the fuel. The composition, quantity, and quality of the additives is proprietary. All gas contains additives, but they aren't created equal.
Jun 12, 2019

Is Cheap Gas Bad for Your Car?

Is there a real difference between different brands of gas and will cheap gas hurt your car? Here's a look at whether it matters where you get gas.

www.thoughtco.com

 

[Oldphart]

One thing that has not been mentioned. If you are pulling into a station and see a truck delivering fuel, go to another station. Reason is the new load of gas is stirring up all the crud that falls to the bottom of the stations tank over time. That will end up in your tank as many stations don't change out the pump filters regularly. You will never know if a truck has just left after a delivery but you will be cutting down on your chances of getting a bad tank of gas.

 

[IvoryHemi]

interesting that current ethanol requirements only run through 2022. Will be curious to see what they propose going forward

U.S. corn-based ethanol worse for the climate than gasoline, study finds - Autoblog

A new study suggests that U.S. corn-based ethanol actually has a higher climate impact than traditional gasoline

www.autoblog.com

 

[HSKR R/T]

One thing that has not been mentioned. If you are pulling into a station and see a truck delivering fuel, go to another station. Reason is the new load of gas is stirring up all the crud that falls to the bottom of the stations tank over time. That will end up in your tank as many stations don't change out the pump filters regularly. You will never know if a truck has just left after a delivery but you will be cutting down on your chances of getting a bad tank of gas.

The tank and pump filters will block anything getting into your tank. About the only stations you would need to worry about are the samll mom and pop stations, or cheap stations that also have "cheap cigarettes". Any top tier gas station will change filters as needed

Does Costco fuel contain additives? When my son was having issues with his GMC a trusted mechanic asked him what brand gas he used, which was Kroger. The mechanic told me stations like Kroger, Sams, Costco and the like buy fuel without all the additives therefore that's why it's cheaper.

Of course this came from a mechanic associated with a BP dealership so this may be fake news but I do trust the guy and when my son filled up with BP gas the problem went away. And I'm not a fuel expert so I don't even know what additives he was talking about!!

Costco is a "top tier" fuel so yes, has additives on par with other top tier stations

 

[GKIII]

interesting that current ethanol requirements only run through 2022. Will be curious to see what they propose going forward

U.S. corn-based ethanol worse for the climate than gasoline, study finds - Autoblog

A new study suggests that U.S. corn-based ethanol actually has a higher climate impact than traditional gasoline

www.autoblog.com

It is my personal belief ethanol requirements are more there to keep corn farmers afloat rather than any real environmental concerns.

 

[Trooper4]

It is my personal belief ethanol requirements are more there to keep corn farmers afloat rather than any real environmental concerns.

Take corn out of the food chain(Cattle feed), use it for fuel, and the price of everything that the corn was used for goes up. Now I see where scientists are making the statement that ethanol is worse for the environment than the gas it replaced.
Go figure.
Oh, and they say we may need a forth shot.

 

[RAM Patriot]

interesting that current ethanol requirements only run through 2022. Will be curious to see what they propose going forward

U.S. corn-based ethanol worse for the climate than gasoline, study finds - Autoblog

A new study suggests that U.S. corn-based ethanol actually has a higher climate impact than traditional gasoline

www.autoblog.com

And it only took them 3 decades to figure that out.

 

[Trooper4]

And it only took them 3 decades to figure that out.

Never could figure out how worse mpg in better for the environment.
The government did the same thing in the 70's and 80's with all the smog crap the manufacturers had to install. Ruined mileage.
Dad had a '62 Studebaker with a 289ci engine that got a steady 20/25 on long trips.

 

[HSKR R/T]

Never could figure out how worse mpg in better for the environment.
The government did the same thing in the 70's and 80's with all the smog crap the manufacturers had to install. Ruined mileage.
Dad had a '62 Studebaker with a 289ci engine that got a steady 20/25 on long trips.

Cause it's "clean" and "renewable".

 

[Richard320]

Cause it's "clean" and "renewable".

You forgot "sustainable."

It's just greenwashing.

I love that word.

 

[RAM Patriot]

Cause it's "clean" and "renewable".

Reminds me of another slogan, "safe" and "effective".

 

[ferraiolo1]

Easier to grow plants than it is to wait for more dinosaurs to further decay.


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[RAM Patriot]

Easier to grow plants than it is to wait for more dinosaurs to further decay.


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The more corn your grow for fuel the less you have for cows and people.

Which makes our meat and corn based products more expensive at the supermarket.

Supply and demand my friend.

Not to mention all the other negatives, lower BTU which equated to less MPG.

Ethanol is hygroscopic so it attracts water and gums up your fuel lines, injectors and really messes up your lawnmowers and two-stoke engines.

 

[Trooper4]

Reminds me of another slogan, "safe" and "effective".

Sounds like a condom ad

 

[RAM Patriot]

Sounds like a condom ad

Yeah a condom for the proletariat.

 

[ferraiolo1]

and two-stoke engines.

Been running it in my two stroke Dirtbike’s for years. Never messed one up.

And it doesn’t mess up modern vehicles that were designed to run with it. The lower btus is offset by the lower cost.

I wish these trucks were flex fuel so you could unlock the power potential e85 gives you.


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[theblet]

Doesn’t e85 cut mpgs in half or so? I’ve never run it

 

[IvoryHemi]

Doesn’t e85 cut mpgs in half or so? I’ve never run it

Not quite that much, but yes e85 reduces mpg by ~30%

 

[RAM Patriot]

Easier to grow plants than it is to wait for more dinosaurs to further decay.


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Oil and natural gas do not come from fossilized dinosaurs! Thus, they are not fossil fuels. That's a myth. ... It was subsequently used more ubiquitously in the early 1900s to give people the idea that petroleum, coal and natural gas come from ancient living things, making them a natural substance.

Explainer: Where fossil fuels come from

Despite one oil company famously using an Apatosaurus as its logo, oil, gas and coal don’t come from dinosaurs. They do, however, come from a long time ago.

www.sciencenewsforstudents.org