2025 Suspension Upgrade / Level / ORG/ LOTS OF QUESTIONS!!

[troymi]

Hello all,
I've spent a lot of time reading and had a few different truck experiences mainly using Bilstein 5100s in front to level and other parts. I now have a 25 Laramie (no air) with the ORG and I'm trying to configure the first step in the front. Trying to decide mainly between Fox 2.0 and Bilstein 5100s (again).

Couple questions/points are sticking out at me:
1. The Bilstein 5100s aren't yet approved fitment on the 2025 with Hurricane engine, so I'm not sure that will happen until endorsed by Bilstein. No other questions on those.
2. The Fox 2.0 coil overs 985-02-136 come with the spring and are adjustable
a. Anyone know if there is a benefit of that spring over the ORG stock spring used with the Fox strut only?
b. Anyone have experience to share with using that coil over setup?
3. Just using the Fox 2.0 strut with ORG stock springs

I've looked at the comparisons such as this write up:

Leveling & Adjustable Height Shocks Comparison - Bilstein vs Eibach vs Fox

Ride height adjustable shocks aren’t terribly new, Bilstein really paved the way for IFS light trucks and SUVs a while back. Many have followed due to the simple nature of the design, and the benefits it gives the driver. Most ‘Leveling Kit’ conversations are dominated by the inexpensive spacers...

www.shocksurplus.com

Really, not going off road much other than some light trails and dirt roads so don't need 2.5 type upgrades but want a front lift with a ride enhancement if possible. The Fox supposedly improves overall ride, but that's just one opinion.

Look for some experience from the forum (@boogielander seems to be among the wise!)

 

[H2OMAN]

The Fox's are linear valved. They will give you a more plush ride that the Bilsteins which are Digressive valved. However, that isn't a plus if you are going to do a lot of hauling or towing. That can be offset with heavier springs or at least air bags in the back(which won't help your front). But that is an additional outlay of money. Two very excellent options would be the Carli Commuter or the Eibach kit. Both of which are a bit more expensive but would be able to fit your needs. Check out all of the YouTube vids on all of those. And also, don't overlook calling those companies and talk to them about your desires and they will be glad to steer you in the right direction.

 

[troymi]

Also, now I realize the price I was looking at for Fox 2.0 (each) and for another $500 you get into the 2.5. I think if I go that way the Fox 2.5 makes sense even if I'm not overlanding or climbing rocks. I've got a Jeep for the little real off road we do, just really looking for better looking and handling Ram. The Bilstein setup I had before just didn't feel very natural in the front end.

For sure I'll check the Carli and see how it compares. I'm trying to be $ efficient this time also. The Eibach set I looked at didn't seem to lean to comfort on road, if I'm wrong prefer options.

 

[troymi]

This was my last one. Trying to do better this time. I added ORG rear springs, Bilstein 5100 front leveling and Wildpeak 295/70/18 on TRX wheels. I liked it but it never really felt just right. Maybe it needed an another inch lift or something. Or the tires were just a little heavy, not sure. Either way, I guess we learn from practice.....

 

[H2OMAN]

Well, I certainly won't argue about the 2.5's. Usually when people ask about leveling kits they're trying to go cheap so I didn't mention them. I have a little bit of a sweet spot for the 2.5's. They are incredible but they aren't giving them away.

 

[boogielander]

the hurricane vs non-hurricane is only the spring rate due to lighter engine vs the heavier hemis. the mounting and everything is the same.
i do, however, suspect there's minimal changes to spring rates though. i was talking to King and their engineer was telling me they use the same spring rate for Hemi, V6, Ecodiesel (which is much heavier). therefore, I do think you can just get away with the 2024 ones but i've yet to confirm that (none of my customers bought hurricane lol)

benefit of running a full on coilover vs ORG spring plus strut is the different spring rate. fox 2.0 springs should be the same as the 2.5s, at 450lb/ in. not sure what the ORG spring rate is (couldn't find it). the difference? the fox 2.0 strut, in combination with the spring, work together to improve ride comfort.

tbh if i was you i'd just run the 2.0 kit and call it a day. and if you can go to 2.5 territory definitely do that so you can fine tune your ride comfort even more, despite you're only use it for 99% on pavement.