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Was able to hit the CAT scale with my family. The truck was full of gas and we had the normal items we take with the kids (car seats, diaper bag, food/snacks/electronics, etc). I got 1060 left, minus a 100 for the hitch, allows me 960 for loaded tongue and other miscellaneous items in truck if...

Perfect. Waiting to look at another trailer today. This buying experience is nuts! But, I definitely want to get the best for us and the truck.

How much does that bad boy weigh? 100?

https://www.jayco.com/products/travel-trailers/2021-jay-feather-micro/199mbs/ That's the trailer we were looking at online. Looks like the 660 does not include propane, batteries, etc. So, I don't think I would be able to keep it at 800 pounds or less. At least that is what I'm aiming for...

What do you think a realistic loaded tongue weight is going to be with a dry tongue weight of 660?

All of my buddies at work have Grand Design Toy Haulers. They all love them and were the ones that recommended Grand Design in general. As for a trailer update, the grand design 21BHE is still the front runner. We are trying to see if storage at the house was going to be an option. Cheapest...

Uga40...what Imagine XLS do you have? Looking at getting the 21BHE

Yeah, it truly is. I definitely didn't fully understand the towing and payload situation, until I came here. Luckly, I have some wiggle room. What size trailer are you looking for?

https://www.granddesignrv.com/showroom/2021/travel-trailer/imagine-xls/floorplans/21bhe Went and viewed all three Grand Design's today. The smallest floorplan was the one we like the most, given our payload limits. The other two were extremely nice, but were beasts. My hats are off to you...

Yeah, the azdel is a major bonus for the Freedom Express and Surveyor Legend! I assumed why there is the added weight to them.

We saw the Freedom Express 238BH and the 246RKS in person the other day. They had nice build quality and didn't appear to be cheaply made. We were also comparing the 238BH to the Surveyor 240BH. We liked the 240 based on layout and it coming with solar already. The one we say in person had a...

Did you end up going with the Bullet 243bh? Or which one did you get? Our trucks look identical! I've heard that as well and I definitely wouldn't make a purchase like this site unseen. We're going tomorrow to look at the 2400Bh, along with these tomorrow...

Yeah, that was one of the first one's I saw when starting the search. It's one I still keep coming back to just based on size/weight/features. I figured even with a 1000 pounds of cargo (Worst case) that still leaves me with a 13% of 800 on the tongue. Which is within my numbers. I am giving...

There are too many choices. I was running the numbers more and here's where i'm at; Payload 1500 Passenger Weight 500 Cargo 100 Hitch 100 Gives me 800 pounds left for tongue weight. Doing an estimation of 13% tongue weight will be a fully loaded trailer of 6100 pounds with that number. The...

https://www.granddesignrv.com/showroom/2021/travel-trailer/imagine/floorplans/2400bh This is the wife's first choice now. I think this may put us at our limits? What do you guys think?

Ahh, yeah, all of the trailers we have seen have the solid door to the bathroom. I don't think my wife would approve of only a curtain! We are absolutely new to the RV'ing world and have learned a lot in a short amount of time. I have driven a school bus before, so i'm not so concerned about...

Thanks for the input guys, I really appreciate it. I would love a second door to the bathroom, but I am trying to not get above 30ft tip to toe. I have to pay for storage and that's a beast of a trailer. After looking at your's Ivory, I found this one...

My wife and I were talking this morning about the very issues you guys brought up. We definitely got sucked in to the layout and figured we could use it now and have the kids still use the sofa and dinette as beds as they get older! They are 3 and 1. Bad parents, I know! The Surveyor was...

https://coachmenrv.com/travel-trailers/freedom-express-ultra-lite/246RKS/243 28 ft; 5460 dry; 7400 loaded; hitch 500 https://forestriverinc.com/rvs/travel-trailers/surveyor-legend/240BHLE/4206 26 ft; 5394 dry; 7517 loaded; hitch 517. We're down to these two trailers, just need to decide...

That is a good looking setup! I love the Grand Design's! Just out of curiosity, what is your payload rating? How many family members?