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  1. Sir Ramcelot

    Start of 2024 Production

    Yes I know. I should have been more clear but I was just making the point that lots of 2024s are on dealer’s lots so some are customer orders although perhaps not yet a confirmed member order from here.
  2. Sir Ramcelot

    Start of 2024 Production

    Plenty of dealers have stock on lots already from Tradesman up to Limiteds.
  3. Sir Ramcelot

    Price negotiated from MSRP

    Yes you have to wait 30 days. Please note that according to FCA US policy, you must be an individual $100 member for at least 30 days to qualify for the FCA US Affiliate Rewards new vehicle discount and you must provide a copy of your membership letter to your dealer to use the discount.
  4. Sir Ramcelot

    2019 limited 4x4 with indigo frost

    So 19-22 were Ivory Frost/Indigo and now it’s Sea Salt/Indigo and they are different colors. Frost was more like a light beige whereas Sea Salt is more a cream color. My Ivory Frost/Indigo 2020 has held up great! No stains, tears, etc. I plan to order a 2024 Limited with the Sea Salt/Indigo...
  5. Sir Ramcelot

    Multifunction tailgate uncommon?

    Limited Elite package comes with MFT and center mounted step included.
  6. Sir Ramcelot

    To buy or not to buy

    As others have said, eTorque is a GREAT engine. Put over 55K so far and ZERO issues with my eTorque Hemi. You can order what you want from Anthony Boi here on the forum (Mark Dodge) and get 12.5% off MSRP (dealer discount), 1% additional tread lightly discount plus incentives available when you...
  7. Sir Ramcelot

    To buy or not to buy

    Because the Ram is quite simply the better truck.
  8. Sir Ramcelot

    LEAKED: Build Sheets Confirm 2025 Ram 1500 Tungsten Features!

    It’s funny to me that Ram would replace a 19 combined EPA MPG eTorque Hemi V8 with a 16 EPA MPG twin turbo I6 HO (based on current EPA MPG on Grand Wagoneer L 4x4). Since the reason we’ve all heard was increased CAFE standards, this makes it worse. Also, the Hemi recommends 89 but is perfectly...
  9. Sir Ramcelot

    Last Ram I'll buy

    Well when the Hurricane HO replaces the Hemi in the 2025 models, that issue will be a thing of the past so of course Stellantis won’t re-design it now.
  10. Sir Ramcelot

    Price negotiated from MSRP

    Contact Anthoni Boi here from Mark Dodge for custom orders.
  11. Sir Ramcelot

    Price negotiated from MSRP

    It’s not. A 2014 had full leather, hemi, 3.92, rambox, ASD, trailer brake, etc. It’s not apples to oranges. I had one and my 2020 and I know what the differences are and to think the small tweaks are worth that big a price jump is foolish. Again, facts are facts. Anyway, this silly back and...
  12. Sir Ramcelot

    Price negotiated from MSRP

    I didn’t cry or whine I pointed out a fact and backed it up with data. It’s a forum and we won’t always agree but facts are facts and truck prices have far outpaced inflation.
  13. Sir Ramcelot

    2024 Ram Limited Question?

    I’ll send you a PM as my questions about leases are that each dealership has very different lease rates from what I’ve seen.
  14. Sir Ramcelot

    Price negotiated from MSRP

    I used 2014 as a reference because my ‘14 loaded Had air, 3.92, Hemi, rambox, 6’4” bed, ASD, etc. The additional HUD, digital rearview camera, MFT, etc. don’t make up such a huge difference. My point is that truck price increases have FAR outpaced inflation during the period. To ignore that fact...
  15. Sir Ramcelot

    Price negotiated from MSRP

    Nobody is crying. You just get upset when you’re corrected or disagreed with.
  16. Sir Ramcelot

    Price negotiated from MSRP

    You can’t say with a straight face that 19% increase in 3 years is “normal” though. It’s ridiculous and unsustainable pricing. You have loaded 1500 Limiteds costing $86K+ now whereas in 2020 they were $73K and in 2014 they were $56K. That’s a $30K increase in 9 years (34.9%). Avg inflation from...
  17. Sir Ramcelot

    Price negotiated from MSRP

    That's exactly what monopolies like OPEC do with oil to keep the price per barrel high...cut production. OPEC of course is a cartel but not within the US system so nobody stops them. In the US monopolies are illegal as is collusion but collusion is difficult to prove and the big 3 (Stellantis...
  18. Sir Ramcelot

    Price negotiated from MSRP

    Something will give for sure because even the 2.9% is only certain models and only up to 72 months. The majority of people who buy vehicles finance so asking them to finance at high interest rates AND pay a huge premium over what we paid only a few years ago won't work long-term. I paid $53K...
  19. Sir Ramcelot

    2024 Ram Limited Question?

    Yeah I'm planning on contacting MD. My plan is to lease, however since I work remotely now and don't put the miles on I once did. I've factory ordered before but no idea how the lease option works when doing that.
  20. Sir Ramcelot

    2024 Ram Limited Question?

    Yeah I have a the Indigo/Frost in my current 2020 Limited and LOVE it! Been trying to determine if the Indigo/Sea Salt is actually a lighter shade...looks like lighter than the Frost one.
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