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  1. HoosierTrooper

    how often is everyone changing oil

    My answer would be no, but some would argue that 0W-20 may use better base stock, others believe 5W-20 may use less pour point depressant or viscosity index improvers so it has less “plastic” additives. Welcome to the weeds, don’t get lost!
  2. HoosierTrooper

    how often is everyone changing oil

    I'd say there's no real benefit until the temp is well below -10F, and then 0W-20 only has a small advantage over 5W-20. Heck, at -10F even 15W oil is pumpable. I would agree that recommending 0W-20 could be a way for the manufacturers to get consumers to use synthetic without coming right out...
  3. HoosierTrooper

    how often is everyone changing oil

    It's always hotter inside a fully warmed up engine than what the ambient air temperature is, plus the Hemis have heat exchangers to help control the oil temp. Again, you're focusing too much on the winter rating. At operating temp they're still 20 grades., and 20 grades have been in widespread...
  4. HoosierTrooper

    how often is everyone changing oil

    My first suggestion would be to quit looking at 0W or 5W oils as being “severe cold weather oil”, that’s not an accurate term. They’re multi- grade oils that can be used under a wide range of driving and weather conditions, and have been around for many, many years. The MRV test for 10W oil is...
  5. HoosierTrooper

    how often is everyone changing oil

    You’re never going to see -31F (-35C) either which is what an oil has to be tested at to pass the MRV pumping test to qualify as a 5W as I explained above. So, is 5W-20 necessary in Florida where it’s never going to get to -31F?
  6. HoosierTrooper

    how often is everyone changing oil

    The author of that mess is completely clueless. The SAE uses two tests to determine an oils winter rating, which is what the W stands for, not "weight". The first test is the cold cranking simulator, CCS, and it measures an oils ability to allow an engine to crank at cold temperatures. The CCS...
  7. HoosierTrooper

    All the oil viscosity discussions and they change it!!

    What’s weird about the 0W-16 “spec”? It’s a very specialized grade that is only recommended by Toyota for use in their hybrid engine and nothing else. They still recommend traditional grades like 0W-20 in their other vehicles. Actually it’s a remarkable oil that demonstrates what oil companies...
  8. HoosierTrooper

    All the oil viscosity discussions and they change it!!

    Yes, at least three synthetic blends are available in 0W-20. https://www.castrol.com/en_us/united-states/home/motor-oil-and-fluids/engine-oils/motor-engine-oil-brands/castrol-gtx-brand/castrol-gtx-ultraclean.html#tab_0w-20...
  9. HoosierTrooper

    2022 First Oil Change

    There is no such thing as 0 “weight” oil. The “W” stands for winter and the SAE classifies oil by grade, not weight, such as 20 grade, 30 grade etc. The first number is the winter rating.
  10. HoosierTrooper

    0w 20 oil, to my surprise

    There's no real argument for one over the other unless you're starting a vehicle in temperatures around-30F or colder. At those temps the 0W-20 has a slight advantage by being able to resist becoming too thick to be pumped by the oil pump or allowing the engine to turn over. If you look at the...
  11. HoosierTrooper

    0w 20 oil, to my surprise

    Exactly.
  12. HoosierTrooper

    0w 20 oil, to my surprise

    To be labeled as a 0W the oil has to pass the cold cranking simulator (CCS) test at -35C and the mini-rotary viscometer (MRV) test at -40C, a 5W has to pass the tests at -30C and -35C respectively. Since there is such a small difference in the test temperatures between the two winter ratings...
  13. HoosierTrooper

    0w 20 oil, to my surprise

    Well, Mobil says it’s recommended for vehicles that require MS-6395 so I’m not sure if it has actually went through the certification process or not.
  14. HoosierTrooper

    0w 20 oil, to my surprise

    Actually M1 EP states it can provide protection for up to 20,000 miles, but I get your point. Probably the best off the shelf 20 grade oil available. https://www.mobil.com/en/lubricants/for-personal-vehicles/our-products/products/mobil-1-extended-performance-0w-20/
  15. HoosierTrooper

    0w 20 oil, to my surprise

    That was true years ago when oils were built primarily out of Group I and/or Group II base stocks that needed high treat rates of viscosity index improvers in order to meet the intended viscosity range. The VII's are what sheared and broke down. Modern synthetic 0W-XX oils are made with Group...
  16. HoosierTrooper

    Oil change every 12 months

    The API has numerous engine wear tests that are highly regulated under ASTM testing protocols that involve actual engine components that are weighed and measured before and after the testing to accurately measure wear. These tests are very expensive, detailed and time consuming and are...
  17. HoosierTrooper

    Oil change every 12 months

    Yep, definitely a critic of someone using made up testing methods that provide wildly inaccurate results. If pour point, CCS and MRV winter performance, Noack volatility and other oil qualities is important to someone it can be found on the oils product data sheets and at reliable test sites...
  18. HoosierTrooper

    Oil change every 12 months

    Yes phony, made up tests. Cooking oil on a hot plate, “cold flow” test of oil running down some PVC pipe and using a test for extreme pressure lubes like grease to determine “wear”. The ASTM has actual sequence tests for every one of those categories that are controlled and scientific, not done...
  19. HoosierTrooper

    Oil change every 12 months

    Never ceases to amaze me that people believe the "tests" done by an amateur Youtuber in his garage using made up tests and homemade equipment somehow provide valuable data. All licensed oils are submitted to a complete and thorough battery of sequence tests conducted in state of the art labs by...
  20. HoosierTrooper

    87 or 89 Gas which do you use?

    93 from Sams most of the time, it’s generally cheaper than 89 at the Marathon or Shell stations nearby. My wife and I have burned up a whole lot of gas from Sams in our vehicles and have never had an issue.
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