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My reading comprehension is great. Your last post wasn’t comparing the correct engine models. But, this post you changed what your main reason was, this reason does make sense.

How is that more apples to apples? The HO is the premium engine offering for 2025, and the hemi you have was the premium engine offering for your 2023 model year. Your posts come off more that you are upset you bought the 23 and then shortly after a new offering came out with more power and you...

I am also unsure how I feel about the front bumper design of the tungsten next to the rest of the models for how they look. Hmm these two pictures show the difference.

Good catch. You can also get the longhorn limited this way.

Everyone has their preference, I get that.

Honestly, I have two reasons I disliked my one truck that had them. 1. The never aligned perfectly and my OCD couldn’t handle the look of them lol. 2. They make the bed too narrow. I haul dirtbikes with the supporting gear for me and my son most weekends. Not enough space with Rambox.

Maybe it was mentioned previously in this thread, idk. But I noticed that the Rambox is standard on everything above Laramie. I normally buy a limited, but I can’t stand Rambox. So that sucks you can’t deselect it!

Our Grand Wagoneer Hurricane is rated at 510hp/500tq. I don’t notice a lag in it. It’s not an NA vehicle that is immediate, but then again the hurricane will blow away the hemi. If you want to experience real lag, get in my 2022 Ram 2500 Cummins lol.

I love the Hurricane in our Grand Wagoneer. Love it so much that I’m actually considering buying the new Ram since it is getting a HO version and you don’t have to settle for the hemi anymore. To me the hemi was and always has been underpowered inefficient and noisy.

It’s actually my wife’s Grand Wagoneer and thanks I love the wheels on it!

Here you are. Not perfect since it’s a 2500, but close enough.

Been wondering how this would look too!