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    Off-Road Group Questions

    How much does the ORG impact mpg. I measured my garage and I only have an 82” clearance (and 19’ 6” length clearance) so a ORG ram would BARELY fit, I think.
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    Price negotiated from MSRP

    How do you find the invoice? Only thing I can find s the stock invoice, nothing for the added options.
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    An excel Tool to Help Comparison Shop Prices

    EDIT: updated so you can just type in the sales tax.
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    An excel Tool to Help Comparison Shop Prices

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/02pxdtx0b1sfi2u/Vehicle%20purchase%20calculations%20BLANK.xlsx?dl=0 All I made this to help myself figure out what dealer discount and rebate total I need to aim for while comparing different vehicles. Its a fairly rudimentary excel sheet with some basic calculations...
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    ETorque Tax Credit???

    Only PHEV and BEV qualify from what I understand.
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    Price negotiated from MSRP

    If a dealers discount is at 10% off MSRP before the $1000 cash incentive is that a decent deal on a 2021 limited or is it typically better at year end or Presidents’ Day? Specifically right now vs waiting till up to next fall. Not sure what invoice would be...
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    Help...am I overloading my new 2020 1500?

    Am I way off in thinking the ORG shocks arent beefier for weight but for travel and offroad bump absorbtion?
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    Who parks in the Garage?

    This, this is the reason I have to be able to park inside. I also hear that if you park inside the ram boxes wont warp as much.
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    Who parks in the Garage?

    Yeah being able to fit in my garage is a pretty big factor in which truck I’m gonna get. It looks like the F150 Limited is 231.7”... so gives me an inch buffer lol
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    Who parks in the Garage?

    Well crap, if thats accurate then it definitely wont fit. Most other sites I've found say 232.9” though.
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    Who parks in the Garage?

    I just remeasured, exactly 19.5 feet, 234”. now i just need an actual bumper to bumper measurement
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    Who parks in the Garage?

    Ime close to making my decision on which truck to buy, but am stuck on one last thing. what is the actual length of a 2020\2021 1500 Limited? My garage is 233” from the back wall to the front lip of the garage leaving about 1.5” buffer space. Id probably be safe in saying this is a standard...
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    Price negotiated from MSRP

    Theres no dealer discount, their low price is just MSRP... unless I’m missing something (which is likely)
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    2021 RAM LIMITED or 2021 F150 PLATINUM or LIMITED?

    How was the ride vs the Ram?
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    2021 RAM LIMITED or 2021 F150 PLATINUM or LIMITED?

    At this point for me, the infotainment is the biggest differentiator. I keep seeing issues with the Ram 12“ screen, but the F150’s will be brand new so I’m sure it’ll have its share of issues. right now I’m trying to see what I can reasonable expect to get fiscounted on the 2021‘s of both...
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    2021 RAM LIMITED or 2021 F150 PLATINUM or LIMITED?

    Theres gotta be a 3rd party market here, some aluminum replacements for the plastic trim or carbon fiber?
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    Price negotiated from MSRP

    Anyone specific?
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    Price negotiated from MSRP

    Which autonation (city) and salesperson (recommend or not)? Wondering if they are close by me or not (north dallas area).
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    8 spd ZF transmission, can it be put into neutral w/o power?

    Thanks, I still dont understand why the heck BMW engineers would remove an easily accessible manual means to put the vehicle in neutral in this situation... The dealer I spoke with acted like it would never happen till I pointed those forum posts to him. He then said those were one off...
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    8 spd ZF transmission, can it be put into neutral w/o power?

    So I’m looking for my next 10 year vehicle this next year amd I had narrowed them down to the Ram, new Ford, Genesis SUV, and dare I say a BMW X5 45e (plug in hybrid), hey it can go 40 miles on batteries then shifts to hybrid. I’ve since taken the BMW off the list in part due to what I...
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