2026 HEMI or Hurricane?

[Ramintime]

You're mixing 2 different arguments. I never suggested the hurricane won't work for every person, or that somebody else bought the wrong engine.

However the fact remains, the hemi has a design that gives it its heavy duty cycle, and that's been proven not just by its design but by a decade of use in the 2500 segment, the hurricane does not have that design. It's a cheaper, light weight, passenger car engine, with a focus on performance/emissions.

Of course the 2500 comparison makes sense; we're making a direct comparison between two engines that either have been used, or cannot be used, in the 2500; the 2500 is the "torture test" that proves the point. It doesn't matter that you don't have a 2500, the 2500 is the test that proves one engine can do more severe duty cycle than the other.

It's like the J2807 towing standard. I'm not ever towing up the davis dam in the middle of summer, but the test is still a useful test and shines a spotlight on how well they complete that test in comparison to eachother.

Whether YOU need/want/appreciate that severe duty cycle ... different argument, personal preference, depends on your use case etc etc.

I have nothing against the hurricane, probably a ball of fun in the new charger.

I see why you think that bringing the 2500 into the conversation, but just like the HD transit vans...the 2500 with the 5.7 Hemi was also all about payload. The towing with that configuration is the same in a 2500 as it is in a 1500, unless you got the 4.10 axle. Even then...that only got you like 1000 more pounds of towing capacity over a 1500 with the max tow package. Another thing to consider is that the H.O. Hurricane might very well be offered in the next gen 2500s, we dont know yet. I bet it would be a killer engine in a grand cherokee or Durango too!

 

[Ram1500OwnerMaybe]

Since a V8 is typically considered simpler and potentially more durable than a turbocharged engine, does the cylinder deactivation system on the HEMI have any effect on long-term reliability or longevity or in anyway close that gap?

 

[silver billet]

I see why you think that bringing the 2500 into the conversation, but just like the HD transit vans...the 2500 with the 5.7 Hemi was also all about payload. The towing with that configuration is the same in a 2500 as it is in a 1500, unless you got the 4.10 axle. Even then...that only got you like 1000 more pounds of towing capacity over a 1500 with the max tow package. Another thing to consider is that the H.O. Hurricane might very well be offered in the next gen 2500s, we dont know yet. I bet it would be a killer engine in a grand cherokee or Durango too!

The 2500 with the 5.7 (with about 10 less hp than the 5.7 in the 1500) and 4.10 axle has a max rating of just shy of 14k pounds, which is more than the 6.4 with the 3.73 and like almost double that an HD transit van, so no, not just about payload. I don't put much weight in those ratings without a healthy dose of asterisks beside them, but that's a different discussion... the point is it's a completely different vehicle than a transit van, built to do different things.

Will the turbos be offered in a next gen... who knows. But clearly manufacturers when left to themselves know and pick what the better engine is if they have any sort of choice left. There is no question that a small turbo will have less emissions and at a certain point the v8's will be regulated out of existence. Again, different argument/discussion.

If I can't have a simple NA gas engine in an HD, then to be honest I'd rather have something like the REV drivetrain, which the REV already is; they call it a half ton but it's a 3/4 in all but name if you look at the axles, payload, and tow ratings.

I'd be open to a hurricane in a GC, I owned a 3.6 GC and still miss it terribly. But I wouldn't be pulling 7k dual axle trailers all over the country with it either and my first choice would remain the 6.4 SRT (engine only, don't need the rest of the package).

 

[silver billet]

Since a V8 is typically considered simpler and potentially more durable than a turbocharged engine, does the cylinder deactivation system on the HEMI have any effect on long-term reliability or longevity or in anyway close that gap?

MDS has no effect on the longevity of the engine. I disabled mine because I cannot stand how it works, but it's not a point of failure any more than any non MDS lifter.

 

[Ram1500OwnerMaybe]

MDS has no effect on the longevity of the engine. I disabled mine because I cannot stand how it works, but it's not a point of failure any more than any non MDS lifter.

How does one disable it and is it one of those things where a dealer comes back stating it voided the warranty?

 

[silver billet]

How does one disable it and is it one of those things where a dealer comes back stating it voided the warranty?

Definitely voids the warranty if they want it to, if you have a 2019 you'd be out of warranty, no?

I use a pulsar and use either "stock tune with MDS disabled" or "tow tune with MDS disabled":

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[BowDown]

Since a V8 is typically considered simpler and potentially more durable than a turbocharged engine, does the cylinder deactivation system on the HEMI have any effect on long-term reliability or longevity or in anyway close that gap?

Simply being a v8 doesn't make it durable or necessarily simpler.
A DI V8 is no more simpler that the hurricane I6; now if the hurricane was a V6 the. I may agree with you as the V configuration adds complexity to a DOHC or even a SOHC engine.

The hurricane isn't really complex or even more difficult to work on, the packaging of the vehicle is what causes the difficulty to work on increase.
Heavy trucks have been using turbo I6s for decades, the Cummins is a turbo I6.

 

[Ramintime]

How does one disable it and is it one of those things where a dealer comes back stating it voided the warranty?

You're better off disabling the MDS by using the gear limiter buttons. Tow/haul mode disables mds too, but i wouldn't want to drive around in that mode all of the time.

 

[BowDown]

Hmmmm

Direct Connection is actively developing performance stage kits for the new 3.0L Hurricane twin-turbo engine, which powers the 2025 Ram 1500, with official releases expected to bring significant, warrantied power gains. These kits will follow the Direct Connection structure, likely featuring ECU tunes and performance accessories for the Hurricane high-output engine.

Key Potential Details

• Engine: Designed specifically for the new Hurricane engine (likely the 3.0L High Output).
• Power Gains: Expected to boost the standard Hurricane output significantly, potentially rivaling or exceeding older high-power V8 figures.
• Availability: While Hurricane kits are currently in development, Direct Connection is expanding its lineup, with, for example, MagnaFlow exhaust systems already announced for the 2025+ Ram 1500 RHO, according to MoparInsiders.
• Kit Structure: Likely to include a hand-held tuner/flasher to update the ECU.

While specific 2025 Ram stage kit, Stage 1, or Stage 2 horsepower figures are not yet finalized for public release, they are part of the broader,, as explained on Dodge.com, Direct Connection and Power Brokers program.