Adding blindspot rear view (and Passenger side dimming) mirror glass

[Paco]

JUST BOUGHT SOME MIRRORS FROM A GUY. 2022 Limited ECO.
They come with auto dim on both sides, along with BS, etc.
Going to make my replacement much easier, as they are drop ins.
Payed $400:00 for the pair, as he was switching to tow mirrors.
Might be a option.

 

[Paco]

Thanks for the advice.
I purchased the mirrors locally, everything seems to work okay.
I agree about Ebay; Hit and Miss.
My friend might be interested in the mirrors. PM or post price if you like.
Thanks Grant

 

[Paco]

Ill talk to him, and see if hes interested.
Seems like a Great price.
Thanks Grant.

 

[Mpgrimm2]

Thanks @1.21gigawatts

If anyone needs some additional notes for adding the rest of the Blindspot stuff, I have several useful posts from the other thread referenced
in this post.

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[Palomba16]

I've got a 19 that cam with blind spot, but no defrost or folding option. I picked up a set off mirrors that have the folding and defrost option along with the control box that match the new mirrors. They don't fold, defrost or have blind spot. I know I need to get the new glass with blind spot but I have no wire to connect. Can that be added?

 

[MannyN]

Those options need to be turned on in the BCM. Also, the mirrors from e-bay stating blind spot, they may have the glass with the triangle but no LED in them. Also, they all have the control wire going to the door control module missing. The wire can be added easily. Black connector, pin 7 signal and pin 5 ground. Since you had blind spot rm the factory, that part should work. You need ALFAOBD, the bypass cable and Vlinker M+ or any good OBD Dongle.

 

[brental1]

Hey peeps,

Background:
I'm about to embark on my quest to add the blindspot/cross path detection feature to my 22 Rebel. I already have all the parts sourced and the only shortfall is going to be the wiring harness between the right and left tail lights and then to the front of the truck, and making sure there is connection for the light in the mirrors. But the parts themselves total about $640 as i only need the sensors themselves and the mirror glass with the indicators. To make the harness i'm going to have to find a few connectors but i pretty much always have a crap-ton of wire on hand. I know that what i am expecting is that the blind spot wiring from light to light and to the front is NOT there... and that the blind spot wiring from mirrors into the truck is also not there. But i have not opened stuff up yet to confirm about the wiring as i am less worried about that currently.

Observation:
What i have noticed in sourcing these parts is that the elements you can get on the rear view mirror glass are heat, dim, and blindspot. I already have the auto dim feature inside, and on my driver's side rearview mirror only, and both of my existing non-blindspot mirrors are heated. But looking at the available replacement glasses, I found a driver's side with heat, blind spot and auto dim, but i'm finding passenger side mirrors with blind spot, heat and with and without auto dim.

Question:
Does anyone out there (of any trim level) have a passenger side mirror that dims? and does anyone out there with knowledge of Alpha OBD know if these things are separately dealt with in that? like do the outside mirrors dimming get enabled separately, or is it just if it's on, it's on and whatever's wired will all dim with the main mirror? cuz i might as well add that whilst i'm doing this since its just another 2 wires to add from the passenger side mirror into the truck, and i'm gonna be in there anyway. but i guess what i'd be curious to know is; can i just jump on to the driver's side dim wires, or do i need to find out where that would have to plug up?

Really i guess what i'm asking is do we have connector/wiring harness/wiring diagram guru on 5th Gen haha?

Nice write up. Lots of help. How much did you pay for the mirrors. I'm seeing around $250 each. Many sellers have 094 and 095 listed formuch less; but when I look closely; they're not dimming--just BSM and heated.

 

[brental1]

I've found set of damaged 2500 (4th Gen) taillights. They have the radar module and the mounting bracket. Thinking about transplanting the radar and mounting brackets to 5th gen taillights (listed as w/o module). I've checked and the PNs are different between 4th and 5th. But, does anyone know if they the 4th gen parts would mechanically fit the 5th gen taillights, and work electrically?

 

[Jimmy07]

I've found set of damaged 2500 (4th Gen) taillights. They have the radar module and the mounting bracket. Thinking about transplanting the radar and mounting brackets to 5th gen taillights (listed as w/o module). I've checked and the PNs are different between 4th and 5th. But, does anyone know if they the 4th gen parts would mechanically fit the 5th gen taillights, and work electrically?

HD Ram BSM radars won’t work on a 1500.

 

[brental1]

HD Ram BSM radars won’t work on a 1500.

Thanks.

 

[brental1]

So now what I need to do, is if possibly find a way to get the connectors and pins for the blind spot led connector. I’d like to do this all with factory connectors if I can, but some things just aren’t findable sometimes. I just like that they are small and snap into the back of the mirror glass and won't be bounding around in there. (otherwise i'll have to do it with some generic connectors, or just solder them all - which i'd like to avoid.)

This is the connector on the mirror glass for blind spot:
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Recently got some help from @JayStein, And I now know this is what the mating connector looks like.
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And it’s listed with this part number as a repair kit that doesn’t exist anywheres:
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So I'm wondering if @Jimmy07 or anyone has a molex part number for this connector... or a way to find it with this... I'm not entirely sure how to obtain that info with this info haha.

Maybe it will be more clear when I receive the mirror glass; but is the black connector you're holding already connected to the mirror?

So, for both sides I have realized I needed to know where to wire the non-existent features.

I have learned on here (and mostly thru posts by Jimmy07 in threads I've found) that the auto dimmer wires go from this connector on the glass:
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to this mating connector, and get wired down into the door module in positions 5&7 of the C2 connector

And thanks to another post from Jimmy I have the molex number for that connector and pins:



So that’s the auto dimming part.

Maybe it will become clear when I receive the mirrors with the BSM; but is the black connector you're holding already connected to the mirror--or did you have to build that pigtail?

 

[brental1]

a little more info:

follow these circuit #'s and you won't have to play around with pinning/depinning connectors

Driver Door BSM:
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Passenger Door BSM:
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Passenger door Auto-Dim:
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Screenshots of menu's in JScan (for iPhoners)
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Just to summarize; for the Left, Driver, it's:
Mirror-Auto Dim Pin 1 BK/GY to Module-Door-Driver C2 Pin 5
" 2 BK/GN to " Pin 7

and
Lamp-Blind Spot Indicator Pin 1 BK/WT to Module-Door-Driver C1 Pin 7
" 2 BK/OR to " Pin 5 (spliced to BN (Turn Signal Lamp Return)

Do I have that correct?

 

[brental1]

HD Ram BSM radars won’t work on a 1500.

I guess the designers really do get paid by the part number.

 

[1.21gigawatts]

Nice write up. Lots of help. How much did you pay for the mirrors. I'm seeing around $250 each. Many sellers have 094 and 095 listed formuch less; but when I look closely; they're not dimming--just BSM and heated.

hey sorry, just seeing these questions. lemme go thru the ones below, but i found my replacement glass on ebay for about $350... it was alot in my opinion but after all was said and done and i gained auto dimming on the passenger side from it, it was worth it!!

 

[1.21gigawatts]

Maybe it will be more clear when I receive the mirror glass; but is the black connector you're holding already connected to the mirror?

Maybe it will become clear when I receive the mirrors with the BSM; but is the black connector you're holding already connected to the mirror--or did you have to build that pigtail?

yes, the black connector in my hand in the first pic is the one that is already wired to the glass... since i didn't have the BSM function i needed to find the truck side termination. the auto dim truck-side pigtail was easy to locate because its already there on the drivers side but that was a similar scenario since my truck only came with interior rearview and drivers side rear view dimming and i had to make that wore for the passenger door...

 

[1.21gigawatts]

Just to summarize; for the Left, Driver, it's:
Mirror-Auto Dim Pin 1 BK/GY to Module-Door-Driver C2 Pin 5
" 2 BK/GN to " Pin 7

and
Lamp-Blind Spot Indicator Pin 1 BK/WT to Module-Door-Driver C1 Pin 7
" 2 BK/OR to " Pin 5 (spliced to BN (Turn Signal Lamp Return)

Do I have that correct?

so for the driver auto dim, i didn't have to do anything as that already existed for me both on the truck and in the old and new glass... so i dont have that up here. what i have learned tho is the driver/passenger circuits usually have different colors for the same type of circuit on the left and right side... even tho its the "same feature". so you'd have to figure out the colors on the driver's side since i did not focus on that in my installation, just plugged them in.

as far as the blind spot for the driver's mirror, yes i think you are listing that correctly... obviously i translated the wire colors from the truck wiring to the colors of wire i used but yes,
for driver blind spot:
Pin 1 on the mirror goes to Pin 7 in the driver's door C1 connector
Pin 2 on the mirror goes to Pin 5 in the drivers door C1 connector and i had a wire there already so i spliced there rather than remove that one.

 

[brental1]

so for the driver auto dim, i didn't have to do anything as that already existed for me both on the truck and in the old and new glass... so i dont have that up here. what i have learned tho is the driver/passenger circuits usually have different colors for the same type of circuit on the left and right side... even tho its the "same feature". so you'd have to figure out the colors on the driver's side since i did not focus on that in my installation, just plugged them in.

as far as the blind spot for the driver's mirror, yes i think you are listing that correctly... obviously i translated the wire colors from the truck wiring to the colors of wire i used but yes,
for driver blind spot:
Pin 1 on the mirror goes to Pin 7 in the driver's door C1 connector
Pin 2 on the mirror goes to Pin 5 in the drivers door C1 connector and i had a wire there already so i spliced there rather than remove that one.

OK, thanks.

 

[brental1]

Trying to confirm which switch I need. Aparantly, I can't buy only the P OFF switches and add them to my existing panel?

I already have Trailer Brake and Trailer Steer. (1st pic). Is 68447098AB (2nd pic) the part I need? Then I can just add my existing switches to this panel?

Just curious, what's the other blank? Sunroof?

 

[1.21gigawatts]

Trying to confirm which switch I need. Aparantly, I can't buy only the P OFF switches and add them to my existing panel?

I already have Trailer Brake and Trailer Steer. (1st pic). Is 68447098AB (2nd pic) the part I need? Then I can just add my existing switches to this panel?

Just curious, what's the other blank? Sunroof?

so these i know nothing about. i didn't add or change any switches in the cab related to this mod, so maybe someone else can chime in here if they have. that is also a much newer panel than mine is as the switches are completely different. sorry i can't help with that part of it!

 

[Destroyed21]

Trying to confirm which switch I need. Aparantly, I can't buy only the P OFF switches and add them to my existing panel?

I already have Trailer Brake and Trailer Steer. (1st pic). Is 68447098AB (2nd pic) the part I need? Then I can just add my existing switches to this panel?

Just curious, what's the other blank? Sunroof?

The blank switch should be used to adjust the air suspension ride height.