Stern dealer warning on mileage

[HSKR R/T]

I don't doubt that happened. The owner's manuals for the two Subaru's I've owned stated that 1 qt every 1000 miles is acceptable. But what does that have to do with oil change intervals? And you didn't address the legal aspect. You said there is a tolerance that they have to allow. Where is the law which states this because I'd genuinely like to know if such a law exists.

I was showing an example of where an "acceptable" allowance is considered binding, whether you agree with it or not. It sets precedent. You not "accepting" the relevance doesn't make it not true. <--see what I did there

I already admitted I don't know what the acceptable -/+ in mileage is. I know I had a goodwill warranty repair done on my truck that was 3000 miles out of factory warranty. Because it was within the "acceptable" amount of time after factory warranty expired to be allowed. The dealer told me what the actual amount of time and miles over were allowable, but I forget what he said.

 

[mikeru82]

I was showing an example of where an "acceptable" allowance is considered binding, whether you agree with it or not. It sets precedent. You not "accepting" the relevance doesn't make it not true. <--see what I did there

I already admitted I don't know what the acceptable -/+ in mileage is. I know I had a goodwill warranty repair done on my truck that was 3000 miles out of factory warranty. Because it was within the "acceptable" amount of time after factory warranty expired to be allowed. The dealer told me what the actual amount of time and miles over were allowable, but I forget what he said.

So you can't back up what you said on this law you talked about. That's all you had to say.

 

[Jimmy07]

What if we argued it from a different direction:
Vehicle owners are able to change their own fluids, do their own maintenance, and still maintain warranty.
How do you actually prove you’ve done oil changes on time, and how would they prove you’ve done didn’t?

 

[HSKR R/T]

So you can't back up what you said on this law you talked about. That's all you had to say.

Who said anything about a law? Now you are just trying to grasp at straws to continue to argue.

 

[mikeru82]

Who said anything about a law? Now you are just trying to grasp at straws to continue to argue.

Um…you did. Or are you unsure of the meaning of the word “legally”?

There is an "acceptable" +/- tolerance they pretty much legally have to allow. Not exactly sure what that is, but it's more than 35 miles. What happens if you take it in to get oil changed and they are busy, and by the time you can get it back you've driven 100 miles because your vehicle is your daily driver?

 

[mikeru82]

What if we argued it from a different direction:
Vehicle owners are able to change their own fluids, do their own maintenance, and still maintain warranty.
How do you actually prove you’ve done oil changes on time, and how would they prove you’ve done didn’t?

Excellent question. That’s something I’ve wondered for a long time. I’ve seen people go so far as to video every oil change to document it. I keep receipts and document the mileage and date the oil changes were performed. I have no idea if that’s enough proof, as they could potentially argue that the work was never performed.

 

[HSKR R/T]

Um…you did. Or are you unsure of the meaning of the word “legally”?

You do realize there doesn't have to be a LAW to say something is legal. Cae in point my previous reference to oil consumption, there is no law saying what is considered acceptable oil consumption, but car manufacturers can legally say your vehicle is within acceptable tolerance, and deny replacing an engine. So, keep stretching. Either way, I'm done with this, you are replying just to be an sphincter at this point.

 

[mikeru82]

You do realize there doesn't have to be a LAW to say something is legal. Cae in point my previous reference to oil consumption, there is no law saying what is considered acceptable oil consumption, but car manufacturers can legally say your vehicle is within acceptable tolerance, and deny replacing an engine. So, keep stretching. Either way, I'm done with this, you are replying just to be an sphincter at this point.

That's literally the meaning of legal.

Definition of LEGAL

of or relating to law; deriving authority from or founded on law : de jure; having a formal status derived from law often without a basis in actual fact : titular… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

Look, I'm done arguing with you on this. I apologize to the rest of the forum for getting into the weeds once again with you.

 

[Jako]

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