Eibach pro truck stage 2 R

[gomango392]

For anyone interested, we have stage 2 kits in stock for the 19-24s. Send me an email to [email protected] and we will hook you up

 

[troymi]

I've got about 5k miles on my 2R setup now. Agree with comments about rear load. If the bed has weight, it definitely squats down and I get bright flashes at night due to raised front. But, in town the ride is way better than ORG. And, on freeway at 85mph ++ I can say that this setup is better than any Ram suspension I've had. Smooth, controlled, stable and quiet. I'm running 295/70/18 and that makes a difference for sure, but overall the ride is so compliant and stable I would not go back to ORG base.

 

[Ready Go]

I just realized that I never did a latest update..after swapping up from 285/60R20s to 285/65R20s. Both were/are Bridgestone Dueler AT Ascents..which I LOVE!!

I love the look even more now! These are basically 35x11.5s and only added 1lb over the 285/60s.

A great surprise to me was that the swap didn't seem to kill my gearing at all..subjectively it feels somehow better, I think because the speed at each shift points is slightly higher?! I used AlfaOBD to reprogram to 2650mm..and the speedo is spot on to my JBV1 App (V1G2 Radar App).

I generally drive in Tow/Haul Mode and just seem to drive at a speed that matches 2000rpm, which in 7th has increased my speed from ~60mph with 275/55s (3.92 gear), to ~65mph with 285/60s (3.74 gear), to ~70mph with 285/65s (3.62 gear). The truck doesn't seem slower, as it should with lower affective gearing, it seems smoother somehow.

The taller tires slightly improved the ride comfort, but not a ton..possibly the sidewall is increased, but is also stiffer(?). Handling, steering, and braking are unchanged. These 65s seems to roll easier than the 60s for some reason..I expected the opposite. The 65s definitely roll over railroad tracks, ruts, potholes, etc with ease and don't unsettle the suspension in any way..very nice!

I had an alignment done and that settled the suspension at exactly 40.25" at every corner (the specs are shown below..ignore the red caster..tech had the DT plugged in as a DS, so they look off).
I'm leveled lifted at 3.25" F & 1.75" R total lift (tires & suspension)..2.25" F & 0.75" R on just Eibach Stage2.

The Ram rides fantastic now! The other day I had 4 bags of solar salt in the bed, and it still rode fantastic, maybe even slightly better (I've always felt that some weight in the bed really helps these Rams ride smoother).

 

[Grape_Ape]

I just realized that I never did a latest update..after swapping up from 285/60R20s to 285/65R20s. Both were/are Bridgestone Dueler AT Ascents..which I LOVE!!

I love the look even more now! These are basically 35x11.5s and only added 1lb over the 285/60s.

A great surprise to me was that the swap didn't seem to kill my gearing at all..subjectively it feels somehow better, I think because the speed at each shift points is slightly higher?! I used AlfaOBD to reprogram to 2650mm..and the speedo is spot on to my JBV1 App (V1G2 Radar App).

I generally drive in Tow/Haul Mode and just seem to drive at a speed that matches 2000rpm, which in 7th has increased my speed from ~50mph with 275/55s (3.92 gear), to ~55mph with 285/60s (3.74 gear), to ~60mph with 285/65s (3.62 gear). The truck doesn't seem slower, as it should with lower affective gearing, it seems smoother somehow.

The taller tires slightly improved the ride comfort, but not a ton..possibly the sidewall is increased, but is also stiffer(?). Handling, steering, and braking are unchanged. These 65s seems to roll easier than the 60s for some reason..I expected the opposite. The 65s definitely roll over railroad tracks, ruts, potholes, etc with ease and don't unsettle the suspension in any way..very nice!

I had an alignment done and that settled the suspension at exactly 40.25" at every corner (the specs are shown below..ignore the red caster..tech had the DT plugged in as a DS, so they look off).
I'm leveled lifted at 3.25" F & 1.75" R total lift (tires & suspension)..2.25" F & 0.75" R on just Eibach Stage2.

The Ram rides fantastic now! The other day I had 4 bags of solar salt in the bed, and it still rode fantastic, maybe even slightly better (I've always felt that some weight in the bed really helps these Rams ride smoother).

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Somewhere else I know I asked how you were liking it. I reread your post on page 4 about going from the stage 1 to the stage 2. Idk thst I'd read that before. Our trucks are almost twins then and that makes me more excited to go with the stage 2 kit. I've been on clip 3 since I had the front installed with my ORP springs. Initially I really enjoyed the ride. I still don't mind it exactly but my General Grabbers are trash. They don't balance worth a darn and at times it rides like a covered wagon. Hopeful that an upgrade to the suspension and some new tires brings my joy lof the truck back.

 

[Ready Go]

Somewhere else I know I asked how you were liking it. I reread your post on page 4 about going from the stage 1 to the stage 2. Idk thst I'd read that before. Our trucks are almost twins then and that makes me more excited to go with the stage 2 kit. I've been on clip 3 since I had the front installed with my ORP springs. Initially I really enjoyed the ride. I still don't mind it exactly but my General Grabbers are trash. They don't balance worth a darn and at times it rides like a covered wagon. Hopeful that an upgrade to the suspension and some new tires brings my joy lof the truck back.

The Clip#3/ORPs weren't too bad, as you've found, but they would sea-saw on some bumps and definitely had a covered wagon ride..at times. The Stage2s completely removed that..very smooth, completely settled on any rough roads now, and very enjoyable ride overall..especially with new tires (although my old ones only had 3000miles on them).
I think you'll be very happy when you get the upgrades

 

[troymi]

Thanks Ready Go for your inputs. I'm running Falken Wilpeak AT3W that are a few years old (the original non-OE version) that are more aggressive. I kept my ORG stock set and I'm going to put them back on for summer back and forth trips and see how they feel. I say summer, but really just want to get past the 3 feet of snow this weekend we're dealing with. In reality, I don't expect any suspension feel/change, but I'm curious what the small 22" sidewall is going to feel like compared to the 18" super sidewall. probably 3 weeks from making the change. FYI

 

[troymi]

BTW: today I was looking at old pics (pre 2R install) and just as I suspected the rear is actually lower with the 2R Eibach progressive spring than it was with the OE ORG rear springs. I'm going in for an oil change and rotate/balance soon and I'm thinking about putting the ORG rear springs back on. I think this is not recommended but has anyone done this? Eibach coil overs in front and resovoir shocks in rear with ORG springs instead of Eibach rear springs?

The main point here is with the bed loaded the rear really droops. People use air bags but what about just going back to digressive springs instead of progressive? Or do I have the terms backwards? Either way I'm thinking the bed load should not be such an impact?

 

[Ready Go]

BTW: today I was looking at old pics (pre 2R install) and just as I suspected the rear is actually lower with the 2R Eibach progressive spring than it was with the OE ORG rear springs. I'm going in for an oil change and rotate/balance soon and I'm thinking about putting the ORG rear springs back on. I think this is not recommended but has anyone done this? Eibach coil overs in front and resovoir shocks in rear with ORG springs instead of Eibach rear springs?

The main point here is with the bed loaded the rear really droops. People use air bags but what about just going back to digressive springs instead of progressive? Or do I have the terms backwards? Either way I'm thinking the bed load should not be such an impact?

I'm running Eibach Stage2 (non-R rears) and I did actually put the Eibach rear coils in, thinking that I could go without the spacers that I was using with my OEM (non-ORG) Rear springs (which gives 0.75" rear lift)...and it dropped the rear a lot, I was shocked! I already had the fronts lifted 2.2" with the Stage1 struts, so it was a total Carolina Reverse Rake!
That was the day that I completely redid the rear suspension TWICE in one day..I ended up giving those Eibach coils away when I sold my Fox PEs.
I do have a pair of ORP Rear Coils that are matched to my OEMs that I thought about trying, but again, I decided enough's enough.
I thought about putting the Eibach coils on my spacers to try them out, but ultimately decided it wasn't worth redoing the rear end again, since I basically had the rear at dialed..and it's stayed that way since. And now that the fronts Stage2 COs, that's it for my suspension.
I talked with Dave and Tanner and asked the basic "WTF" question and they didn't have a real response.."some trucks are different". My Stage2 COs only got me 2.25" lift at max height whereas they say 0-3.2"..no way for my heavy Ram..maybe you're the same?? Other guys use them, so maybe we have heavier trucks??

 

[Ready Go]

I think you mean Single Rate vs Dual Rate springs..ALL Ram rear coils are Dual Rate.
The standard OEMs have a tighter top stack for the top 5 coils.
The ORPs have a tighter top stack for the top 4 coils..AND the coil thickness is thinner on those top coils..and then transition to a thicker guage coil thickness for all of the lower coils! Crazy Dual Rate, Dual Guage spring..I can't say I've seen that before in any of the MANY different suspensions I've done in my life!

Also, I run Airlift bags in my rear coils and I keep them at 5psi..they work great! When I carried a load of lumber, I aired to 30psi and they worked fantastic. They may not be best for serious heavy towing, but with a Load Distribution Hitch, probably??

 

[Ready Go]

BTW, I forgot to mention..Dave at Eibach told me the Eibach Rear 1" Coil is a 150lb/300lb Dual Rate Spring. He said the OEM was more initial rate, but less secondary rate. He wasn't exactly sure, but thought OEM is around 200-225lb/275lb Dual Rate.
Maybe this helps explain the increased droop & cushier ride of the Eibachs compared to OEMs??

 

[gomango392]

BTW, I forgot to mention..Dave at Eibach told me the Eibach Rear 1" Coil is a 150lb/300lb Dual Rate Spring. He said the OEM was more initial rate, but less secondary rate. He wasn't exactly sure, but thought OEM is around 200-225lb/275lb Dual Rate.
Maybe this helps explain the increased droop & cushier ride of the Eibachs compared to OEMs??

Also most guys are leveling these trucks so you are taking out the factory rake which will make the truck sag more!

 

[gomango392]

More Eibach Stage 2 and 2R kits have hit the shelves for the 19-24s!! Only a couple left of each! Email [email protected] for forum member pricing
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[LaxDfns15]

More Eibach Stage 2 and 2R kits have hit the shelves for the 19-24s!! Only a couple left of each! Email [email protected] for forum member pricing
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Man... NOW you say forum member pricing...

 

[Ready Go]

Man... NOW you say forum member pricing...

To be fair..Trevor has frequently stated on the Forum that he gives members discounts for many different performance products, but probably hasn't recently..maybe to not be too pushy. He's a stand up guy for a long time here.
His company will cut us deals..or otherwise you have to wait for Holiday Specials from the companies themselves.
Helpfully your post will help others here to be aware of future discounts from them..Hopefully you did get some deal on yours?

 

[LaxDfns15]

To be fair..Trevor has frequently stated on the Forum that he gives members discounts for many different performance products, but probably hasn't recently..maybe to not be too pushy. He's a stand up guy for a long time here.
His company will cut us deals..or otherwise you have to wait for Holiday Specials from the companies themselves.
Helpfully your post will help others here to be aware of future discounts from them..Hopefully you did get some deal on yours?

Oh yeah no worries on missing it. I know he posts quite a bit. I bought straight from Eibach, and unfortunately their prices have gone up (whose haven't?). All good, still getting a solid suspension setup.

 

[Ready Go]

Oh yeah no worries on missing it. I know he posts quite a bit. I bought straight from Eibach, and unfortunately their prices have gone up (whose haven't?). All good, still getting a solid suspension setup.

Excellent

 

[gomango392]

To be fair..Trevor has frequently stated on the Forum that he gives members discounts for many different performance products, but probably hasn't recently..maybe to not be too pushy. He's a stand up guy for a long time here.
His company will cut us deals..or otherwise you have to wait for Holiday Specials from the companies themselves.
Helpfully your post will help others here to be aware of future discounts from them..Hopefully you did get some deal on yours?

Appriciate you! Yeah we definitely don't like being pushy and flood the forum with spam!