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Consumer Report Car/Truck edition arrived in the mail. Sorry Ram.

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Per Consumer Report :

Even though the Ram 1500 is a joy to drive, with a smooth, refined powertrain and a comfortable ride, you probably won't be happy with it in the long run-unless you don't mind extra trips to the repair shop.
Of the gas and hybrid trucks we've tested, it's the only one to receive our lowest reliability rating.

I assume CS reference pertains mostly to the dead batteries and electrical issue.
Would have been nice if they were more specific to state those to which it could be forward to someone at Ram.
 
Actually thought it was a good thing to have CR post it.
I have read numerous posts of very similar issues people are having especially with the dead batteries.
Hopefully something like this gets them moving toward a fix faster.
 
Depend on the focus of the magazine.
Most rate based on ones driving experience and no one can deny that the 1500 is one of the better riding trucks.
Definite 10 out of 10.
CR is one of the few which includes reliability which is a different category.
Once again, still hoping CR has the reputation for the manufacturer to take notice.
 
My take on it, is that most of the mags and youtube channels rate vehicles mostly subjectively and they only get the vehicles for a short period of time - even the "long term reviews" only covers vehicles a year or two old. They're good at comparing features and specs and what they're like to live with, but none have any notion of "reliability".

JD Powers is good for comparing "initial quality" i.e. how many defects were reported at delivery, but even their "long term reliability" is capped at three years - which is worthless for us consumers, those are pretty much new. We want to know what's it going to be like at 100k miles!

CR is a different animal. They get actual data from actual owners, and usually a lot of data. They are also good about publishing their methodology. However, the criticism is they only get data from members who respond, and the data is only as good as how 'properly' the members respond to the surveys. CR also has some anomalies which is reflected in how well the owners like their vehicles regardless of reliability; for example, both Rivian and Tesla have terrible reliability but they have very high recommendations.

Overall, assessing reliability is a crapshoot for us, based on what we personally see and experience and hear from friends. Personally, I've never been a fan of extended warranties, but with the increase in complexity, difficulty of repairs, and >$200/hr labor rates, I've concluded owning a vehicle under warranty is the smart thing to do to mitigate that.
 
Ram1500OwnerMaybe said:
Depend on the focus of the magazine.
Most rate based on ones driving experience and no one can deny that the 1500 is one of the better riding trucks.
Definite 10 out of 10.
CR is one of the few which includes reliability which is a different category.
Once again, still hoping CR has the reputation for the manufacturer to take notice.
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Problem with CR and "reliably" is the just track dealer visits, not the purpose of the visit. If you take it in because you heard a rattle, is that poor reliability?
 
Ram1500OwnerMaybe said:
Per Consumer Report :

Even though the Ram 1500 is a joy to drive, with a smooth, refined powertrain and a comfortable ride, you probably won't be happy with it in the long run-unless you don't mind extra trips to the repair shop.
Of the gas and hybrid trucks we've tested, it's the only one to receive our lowest reliability rating.

I assume CS reference pertains mostly to the dead batteries and electrical issue.
Would have been nice if they were more specific to state those to which it could be forward to someone at Ram.
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I hate to have to agree. I bought my current 2019 Ram Rebel for nearly $11,000 less than comparable Ford or Chevrolet. Now, at only 70,000 miles and proper maintenance its in the shop for a new cam and lifters. Cylinder 4 quit firing due to the lobe on the cam wearing down. This is and has been a known issue and yet Ram still hasn't fixed the problem. After out of pocket repair I lost over half the savings at purchase. I really like the Ram - the design, features, ride are all great. A gentleman I work with had the same problem and was still under warranty, his entire engine was swapped. The mechanic doing my work did 41 trucks last year for the same issue. What gets me is that original parts used for the repair are from Stellantis and have no issues. Why is it that the parts used during the engine build initially have such a high rate of failure? I have learned over my many years of life that you get what you pay for. I have reached out to Stellantis - Ram division and it has fell on deaf ears. We can only speak to that which we have experienced, and I can say without doubt that the Ford trucks I have driven, ALL gave me over 300.000 miles without issue. My Ram has given me 69.987 miles and broke. So yes, for reliability, Ram is dead last.
 
corleyjm said:
I hate to have to agree. I bought my current 2019 Ram Rebel for nearly $11,000 less than comparable Ford or Chevrolet. Now, at only 70,000 miles and proper maintenance its in the shop for a new cam and lifters. Cylinder 4 quit firing due to the lobe on the cam wearing down. This is and has been a known issue and yet Ram still hasn't fixed the problem. After out of pocket repair I lost over half the savings at purchase. I really like the Ram - the design, features, ride are all great. A gentleman I work with had the same problem and was still under warranty, his entire engine was swapped. The mechanic doing my work did 41 trucks last year for the same issue. What gets me is that original parts used for the repair are from Stellantis and have no issues. Why is it that the parts used during the engine build initially have such a high rate of failure? I have learned over my many years of life that you get what you pay for. I have reached out to Stellantis - Ram division and it has fell on deaf ears. We can only speak to that which we have experienced, and I can say without doubt that the Ford trucks I have driven, ALL gave me over 300.000 miles without issue. My Ram has given me 69.987 miles and broke. So yes, for reliability, Ram is dead last.
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To be fair, that is an older model.
 
corleyjm said:
I hate to have to agree. I bought my current 2019 Ram Rebel for nearly $11,000 less than comparable Ford or Chevrolet. Now, at only 70,000 miles and proper maintenance its in the shop for a new cam and lifters. Cylinder 4 quit firing due to the lobe on the cam wearing down. This is and has been a known issue and yet Ram still hasn't fixed the problem. After out of pocket repair I lost over half the savings at purchase. I really like the Ram - the design, features, ride are all great. A gentleman I work with had the same problem and was still under warranty, his entire engine was swapped. The mechanic doing my work did 41 trucks last year for the same issue. What gets me is that original parts used for the repair are from Stellantis and have no issues. Why is it that the parts used during the engine build initially have such a high rate of failure? I have learned over my many years of life that you get what you pay for. I have reached out to Stellantis - Ram division and it has fell on deaf ears. We can only speak to that which we have experienced, and I can say without doubt that the Ford trucks I have driven, ALL gave me over 300.000 miles without issue. My Ram has given me 69.987 miles and broke. So yes, for reliability, Ram is dead last.
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You obviously don't follow other brands and the issues they are having. Ford has multiple recalls for the F150 transmissions. Chevy has well know engine and lifter issues, more so than RAM.
 
Bottom line is RAM 1500 was the golden boy and with the highest recommendation by CR from 2019 - 2024.
Stellantis F...p the 2025 + with glitchy electronics. and sub-mediocre build quality.
In 2025, all categories are marked in green circles. The only category that is marked red is "build quality." And I agree with that!
At least we don't need new engines yet like Chevy and Toyota.
 
It will be two years in May and I have yet to have one single issue with my 2025 where I had to go to the dealer. My 2019 had a lot more problems although no powertrain issues either.
 
Except for a few recalls, my 2019 was flawless.
On my 25-----, 7 trips to the dealer due to UConnect, misaligned body panel, and leaky door seal issues.
16700 miles so far, no mechanical issues.
 
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