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I just trade my ‘21 Rebel for a ‘25 and it of course has the Hurricane engine. I was a BMW tech for 15 years in a prior career and saw first hand how nasty the Intakes got on the direct injected turbo engines, so this one does worry me a bit.

I have searched and searched and can’t find anyone that has done a catch can for the 3.0 hurricanes yet. I found a kit for the 2.0l turbo that is in the jeeps, but the intake systems appear to be quite different.

Has anyone on here seen or found one yet? I have found a small crank case vent line on the engine I can likely make a kit for, which may be what I try if no kits are readily available.
 
I haven't seen any threads about catch cans on the Hurricane engines so far. Seems like it's something that people would have at least looked into by now.
 
I will be starting the journey to make a kit myself this week. Looks like it might need two cans, one with a check valve as it will be under boost at times and would this pressurize the can and crankcase. I will document it and make some notes.
 
I put a catch can on mine first week I had it (got it in February 25') on Tungsten HO. Have 2,500 miles and it is definitely collecting the sludge. I put them on every vehicle I have with Direct Fuel Injection that has a PCV (positive crankcase ventilation). Have them on a new Lincoln Navigator and 23' BMW Z4M. I prefer OSC when possible (they come in black or silver/titanium), but the BMW required a different brand. Ridiculously easy to install and easy to clean (empty every 5-8K miles as needed). Have had them on multiple other vehicles before these three I currently own and they 100% do their job without robbing any power or even changing the overall function of the PCV system (just cleaning it up, drop by drop) and are actually improving it by keeping it's lines and ports clean over the years. I still kept the original/factory vent hose though just in case of warranty issues and a dealership getting a bug up their **** about the engine having a supposed "mod". I've never ran into that by any dealer, but still (BMW dealerships though are a real treat to deal with). The reason you will never see this installed by any auto manufacturer is that they do not care about the longevity of the engine past their own manufacturer's powertrain warranties, which always excludes "normal wear and tear" that includes build-up and caking from fuels and lubricants. So, they save time, money, and weight on something that ultimately does not affect them as the manufacturer.Catch_Can.jpg
 
PWR4HIM said:
I just trade my ‘21 Rebel for a ‘25 and it of course has the Hurricane engine. I was a BMW tech for 15 years in a prior career and saw first hand how nasty the Intakes got on the direct injected turbo engines, so this one does worry me a bit.

I have searched and searched and can’t find anyone that has done a catch can for the 3.0 hurricanes yet. I found a kit for the 2.0l turbo that is in the jeeps, but the intake systems appear to be quite different.

Has anyone on here seen or found one yet? I have found a small crank case vent line on the engine I can likely make a kit for, which may be what I try if no kits are readily available.
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I did a video a couple of weeks ago.

 
bshelton8 said:
I did a video a couple of weeks ago.

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How did that K&N work for you? Seeing it in your video, I found it on Amazon …. and the reviews are mixed. The complaints about the clamps I can get passed — but the reviews stating it tripped codes make me take pause.
 
USMUSL said:
How did that K&N work for you? Seeing it in your video, I found it on Amazon …. and the reviews are mixed. The complaints about the clamps I can get passed — but the reviews stating it tripped codes make me take pause.
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It's been good for me, no complaints.
 
toadsch said:
That does look quality but $500 and change is a lot of beans.
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There are lots of cheaper catch cans out there if you want to figure out the connections and mount provisions yourself. I agree that $500 is a lot to pay, but you just bought a $70k truck and you're balking at $500 for something that's gonna help keep your engine running well for many years to come. The scale is a little different but to me that's like the people I used to know who refused to spend a couple bucks per quart more to run synthetic motor oil instead of conventional.
 
mikeru82 said:
There are lots of cheaper catch cans out there if you want to figure out the connections and mount provisions yourself. I agree that $500 is a lot to pay, but you just bought a $70k truck and you're balking at $500 for something that's gonna help keep your engine running well for many years to come. The scale is a little different but to me that's like the people I used to know who refused to spend a couple bucks per quart more to run synthetic motor oil instead of conventional.
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Oh lighten up, Francis. J&L makes a fantastic product for $169 that would do the trick for 99% of the 1500 owners out there. So, step off the pedestal.

$500 is, indeed, a lot of money for a catch can. But, I’ll admit it’s worth it for those running the HO, tuned, pushing extra boost, and maybe running drag strip. In other words, only those pushing the limits.
 
USMUSL said:
Oh lighten up, Francis. J&L makes a fantastic product for $169 that would do the trick for 99% of the 1500 owners out there. So, step off the pedestal.

$500 is, indeed, a lot of money for a catch can. But, I’ll admit it’s worth it for those running the HO, tuned, pushing extra boost, and maybe running drag strip. In other words, only those pushing the limits.
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I'm sure Toadsch appreciates your defending him from my post. :ROFLMAO:

The Hurricane engines are both forced induction gasoline direct injection and either engine will benefit from a catch can regardless of the tune or how it's driven.
 
USMUSL said:
Oh lighten up, Francis. J&L makes a fantastic product for $169 that would do the trick for 99% of the 1500 owners out there. So, step off the pedestal.

$500 is, indeed, a lot of money for a catch can. But, I’ll admit it’s worth it for those running the HO, tuned, pushing extra boost, and maybe running drag strip. In other words, only those pushing the limits.
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There's a $50 catch cannon amazon that will do everything the J&L does.
 
Ok, apparently I need to defend my statement. Yes, I spent $69k on a truck. But buying extras for it might not be in the budget yet. I have a 2010 hemi with almost 190k miles on it that never had a catch can and still runs great. So if that $500 catch can helps this truck reach the same or more then I’d consider getting it but I can’t justify it. What does the $500 one do that the $176 can’t?
 
toadsch said:
Ok, apparently I need to defend my statement. Yes, I spent $69k on a truck. But buying extras for it might not be in the budget yet. I have a 2010 hemi with almost 190k miles on it that never had a catch can and still runs great. So if that $500 catch can helps this truck reach the same or more then I’d consider getting it but I can’t justify it. What does the $500 one do that the $176 can’t?
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The main difference is that your 2010 Hemi does not have gasoline direct injection (GDI) and your 2025 does. GDI engines are especially prone to carbon build up on the back side of the intake valves because there is no gasoline sprayed onto the back of the valves to wash them off, like the Hemi with port injection does. A catch can eliminates most of the crud that's introduced into the intake by the PCV system, especially as an engine ages and develops blow-by. A GDI engine with forced induction is even more susceptible because of the higher cylinder pressures involved. Using top tier gasoline and regular oil changes with quality synthetic oil helps a lot too.

My response to your post was kind of flippant, and I apologize for that. You certainly don't have to spend $500 on a catch can. You can find universal fit versions for as little as $30. But you'll need to figure out connections and mounting for it. I would recommend installing one at some point on any GDI engine.
 
mikeru82 said:
I'm sure Toadsch appreciates your defending him from my post. :ROFLMAO:

The Hurricane engines are both forced induction gasoline direct injection and either engine will benefit from a catch can regardless of the tune or how it's driven.
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You’re deflecting. No one said these forced induction motors won’t benefit from a catch can; as a matter of a fact, I have one on my stock SO.

This issue I have is with your condescending lecture over whether someone had to buy a $500 catch can because they invested in an expensive truck.
 
USMUSL said:
You’re deflecting. No one said these forced induction motors won’t benefit from a catch can; as a matter of a fact, I have one on my stock SO.

This issue I have is with your condescending lecture over whether someone had to buy a $500 catch can because they invested in an expensive truck.
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You might go back and read what you posted. You yourself said a catch can is "only for those pushing the limits".

I'm not sure why you felt the need to inject yourself into a post I left for another member. No one said he had to spend $500 on a catch can.

I get it. You're new and you want to make a name for yourself. My unsolicited advice is to try and be a little less abrasive in your posts.
 
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