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Hello I’m new to leasing and got a deal in the works for this truck at 699 for 36 months with 15k miles/year. The 2024 Laramie started at 69k then 17k rebates and discounts for a price of 51k. They started at 799 then dropped down to 749 then 699. Any thoughts or would be appreciated. Very new to the lease to own aspect of buying a vehicle.
 

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First of all, welcome.
Seems high for a low mileage lease, what is the interest rate? And what is the residual value at the end of lease?
How much did you shop around?
I think they can do better.
If they can drop 100 bucks a month with you just hemming and hawing they can do better. Don't bend over, look around, even travel around to dealer 20+ miles away.
 

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Hello I’m new to leasing and got a deal in the works for this truck at 699 for 36 months with 15k miles/year. The 2024 Laramie started at 69k then 17k rebates and discounts for a price of 51k. They started at 799 then dropped down to 749 then 699. Any thoughts or would be appreciated. Very new to the lease to own aspect of buying a vehicle.
Leased my 2022 for 500/month. 1500 Laramie. 36 months at 10k/year.
 

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First of all, welcome.
Seems high for a low mileage lease, what is the interest rate? And what is the residual value at the end of lease?
How much did you shop around?
I think they can do better.
If they can drop 100 bucks a month with you just hemming and hawing they can do better. Don't bend over, look around, even travel around to dealer 20+ miles away.
Thank you for the welcome, the rate was practically 0 for the lease like .00018%. They said whatever it would be after depends on the rates in 3 years. I don’t recall the residual off the top of my head but I believe it’s around 25k. I didn’t shop around for leases, honestly wasn’t even thinking about them. But if I was going to be in the 600’s for a used big horn with 35k miles the new lease for 699 didn’t look so bad. I’m just hesitant about leasing since I’m so new to them.
 

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In the fall of 2020, we did a little under 700 per month for a fully loaded Laramie. 12k per year. We paid sales tax up front as I suspected we would buy it and it would simplify the buyout in my state,
Residual is not negotiable, it is set by the bank to ensure they are collateralized during the lease term. Money factor usually has margin for the dealer and can be negotiated to an extent. The rest is based off of the MSRP.

For a 15k mile lease, sounds like you have done well. But the only way to tell is to shop around and when the quotes get similar, you know you are done.

Good luck.
 

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That money factor doesn't seem correct. and you don't have the residual percentage.
i've never seen $17K off a lease. What is that broken down? dealer discount versus any "lease rebates".

Seems like a high lease payment to be honest!

Sheer fact that they went from 799 to 699 surely demonstrates that there is STILL room to move, and plenty of profit on their side. I'd say walk away.

RAM/FCA isn't even showing any lease deals on the 24 Laramie, so, again, I am curious where all those rebates are coming from . . .

Unless you plan on buying the vehicle at the end of the lease term, leasing is a bad idea, and really just like renting a vehicle each month. you will have ZERO equity in it.
Great input. I’m skeptical about leasing in general.
 

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what are you permitted to do to the truck while on a lease?
I have never leased a vehicle.
can you customize it?
I asked if there were restrictions on what I can do and they said no. I don’t 100% believe them without looking at the contract.
 

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That money factor doesn't seem correct. and you don't have the residual percentage.
i've never seen $17K off a lease. What is that broken down? dealer discount versus any "lease rebates".

Seems like a high lease payment to be honest!

Sheer fact that they went from 799 to 699 surely demonstrates that there is STILL room to move, and plenty of profit on their side. I'd say walk away.

RAM/FCA isn't even showing any lease deals on the 24 Laramie, so, again, I am curious where all those rebates are coming from . . .

Unless you plan on buying the vehicle at the end of the lease term, leasing is a bad idea, and really just like renting a vehicle each month. you will have ZERO equity in it.
It is true you will have zero equity if you just hand back the keys at lease end but if you negotiate a good upfront deal you can cash out equity by trading-in or buying and selling at lease end. I've leased 4 sunrise and 2 Rams and have had equity in everyone allowing me to upgrade and reduce payment each time.
 

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what are you permitted to do to the truck while on a lease?
I have never leased a vehicle.
can you customize it?
If you plan to turn the vehicle in at lease end you may have problems with any mods, if you plan to buy out the lease or work with a dealer to buy it out for trade or sale you can do whatever you want. I've modified all of my leased trucks but have also removed mods at lease end to put on the upgraded truck I moved into.
 

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Don't believe that. Typically, you can't add mods like lift kits, etc to a leased truck (UNLESS you plan on buying it at lease end).
You can do whatever you want to the lease while you have it. Then you can either return it to stock before turning it in, or negotiate a buy out. You mentioned He should walk away if he's not a little educated on how leases work but some of the information you are providing isn't accurate at all, and I'd suggest you get a little more educated on how leases work
 

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Hello I’m new to leasing and got a deal in the works for this truck at 699 for 36 months with 15k miles/year. The 2024 Laramie started at 69k then 17k rebates and discounts for a price of 51k. They started at 799 then dropped down to 749 then 699. Any thoughts or would be appreciated. Very new to the lease to own aspect of buying a vehicle.
You really can't determine if it is a good deal from the monthly payment alone. A good lease starts with a good selling price and then good numbers for the money factor and residual as well as your trade value if applicable. I always start with the sales price and then compare lease vs finance options to see which is a better deal on the same truck. I'm on my 3rd leased Ram after buying my 1st one and for each of the leased trucks it was almost the same or better all in to lease and buy out the truck that to finance from the start due to the incentives and finance numbers at the time. I've ended up flipping g every lease a out 2.5 years in because of equity and good deals but it can be a good way to buy a longer term truck as well if the numbers are right.
 

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Get the details of the lease and post them here. The price of the truck the lease is based off. The percentage rate of the sales tax on lease payments, residual amount. My current truck is a lease, but I walked into it fully intending to buy it out at end of lease. Which I just sent off my buyout check to Chrysler Capital last week. I was paying $403/mo on my 2020 Built to Serve with 12k year mileage. Residual amount was $28,800. Unfortunately interest rates went way up during the lease period(thanks Bidenomics) so my buyout payments are higher than the lease payments. But I saved $1000 on sales tax overall vs financing the full amount up front.

In Nebraska sales tax on vehicles is paid during registration and can't be financed into loan. Unless you lease, then there is a sales tax on the monthly lease payments, and you don't pay sales tax at DMV until you finance the residual.

As for lease end options. You can either just turn in the lease losing all your equity left in vehicle, which in our trucks is quite a bit. Then your lease turn in goes to auction where it is usually sold for a fraction of actual value.

You can negotiate with dealership to work it as a trade in, where they buy out the lease and give you some of the equity towards a new vehicle. That allows them to keep the truck as dealer inventory and you get to use the equity. Win/win for both parties. But this option will never be told to you. You have to know about it and request it.

Or you can just buy it out yourself and keep the truck. Don't believe the Chrysler Capital website, you do not have to go through dealer to buy out the vehicle. This is a tactic to get you back into the dealership to have them try to sell you a new vehicle. You can secure your own financing and just mail the check directly to Chrysler Capital along with odometer disclosure.
 
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You can do whatever you want to the lease while you have it. Then you can either return it to stock before turning it in, or negotiate a buy out. You mentioned He should walk away if he's not a little educated on how leases work but some of the information you are providing isn't accurate at all, and I'd suggest you get a little more educated on how leases work
FYI, I am leasing now! And I most certainly do know how leases work. Have been for 14 months now. I did say "unless you are planning on buying at lease end". Doesn't really make sense to make mods to a leased vehicle, then "return to stock" (seems like money down the drain to me). Likewise, yeah, if you're planning on buying it lease end, sure.
I really consider myself pretty informed on leases. I know how to run numbers thru a lease calculator to know if I'm getting a good/great deal on a lease I'm considering.
Just because you felt I gave bad advice on "mods" to a lease, doesn't necessarily make me feel like I'm providing "inaccurate" information. Did you ever give it any thought that the "mod policy" might be different from brand to brand? you're a little quick to call someone "uneducated on leases".
 
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It is true you will have zero equity if you just hand back the keys at lease end but if you negotiate a good upfront deal you can cash out equity by trading-in or buying and selling at lease end. I've leased 4 sunrise and 2 Rams and have had equity in everyone allowing me to upgrade and reduce payment each time.
True, but how many people know at lease signing if they are going to "buy-out"/ purchase at lease end. If that was the case, why wouldn't it just be a purchase to begin with?
 

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FYI, I am leasing now! And I most certainly do know how leases work. Have been for 14 months now. I did say "unless you are planning on buying at lease end". Doesn't really make sense to make mods to a leased vehicle, then "return to stock" (seems like money down the drain to me). Likewise, yeah, if you're planning on buying it lease end, sure.
I really consider myself pretty informed on leases. I know how to run numbers thru a lease calculator to know if I'm getting a good/great deal on a lease I'm considering.
Just because you felt I gave bad advice on "mods" to a lease, doesn't necessarily make me feel like I'm providing "inaccurate" information. Did you ever give it any thought that the "mod policy" might be different from brand to brand? you're a little quick to call someone "uneducated on leases".
The mods thing isn't only bad information you gave. Even if you don't plan on keeping the vehicles you can most definitely use the equity in it if you know how it works. You told OP he will have "ZERO equity" which is only true if you don't know how to work a lease end deal. Meaning, being educated on how the process works. There's knowing how to run numbers to get the best up front lease deal, then there is knowing how to work a lease in your favor both up front and at lease end. You seem to be good at the former, but not the latter, when giving advice.
 

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I'm not saying I'm an expert at leases. Far from it, but there is more to leases than just the lease term and handing it back in at the end.
 

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True, but how many people know at lease signing if they are going to "buy-out"/ purchase at lease end. If that was the case, why wouldn't it just be a purchase to begin with?
Read my replies. I saved over $1000 in sales tax alone, plus had lower monthly payments for the lease term. Had I financed the entire amount up front my payments would have almost been double. Which at the time wasn't a good option financially. Especially with the sales tax on full purchase price. I knew at lease signing that I was 100% buying it out at the end.
 

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To HSKR’s point, when the lease was up on our ‘20, the buyout was about $12-14k less than market value. Granted market was strange due to covid but we did well on the lease and were able to take a business deduction. People’s needs and views vary. Fwiw.
 

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