Ford 5.0 VS Dodge 5.7

[CJ7nvrstk]

The 5.0 gets a 10 speed, the 5.7 an 8. Lower gears available in the Dodge. Dual exhaust in the Dodge. More HP and torquse in the dodge. Winner?

Dodge of course.

 

[JF19Longhorn]

I think the 2021 5.0 gets 'MDS', still has the 10 spd, and gets a slight bump in hp/trq to 400hp/410trq. It's definitely a faster feeling / more fuel efficient truck now, but I'm not sure of the actual numbers.

I had the previous gen 2015 5.0L, 4x4, 6spd, with 3.55's and the issue I had was it needed to rev in order to access that power. Sitting at 3k+ rpms for extended periods of time towing a 6k open car trailer just did not sit well with me. I haven't towed any distance or any long inclines with the Hemi yet (yay COVID) but I'm hoping with the extra displacement it will do better.

*Also, pretty sure the 'dual exhaust' on the RAM is fake.

 

[Nails]

If both Tuned or not with 10speed should win with 5.0. Eco boost probably not.

 

[Scram1500]

The lightweight aluminum body of the F-150 is what wins the race, it has a better horsepower per ton ratio compared to the Ram

 

[JF19Longhorn]

If both Tuned or not with 10speed should win with 5.0. Eco boost probably not.

Both Eco's from Ford will beat the Hemi (all options being equal).

The 3.5L & 3.5L HO aren't even comparable.. they walk all over the Hemi. The 2.7L usually gets us 0-60'ish, then the big hemi starts reeling it in.. so it depends how far you are racing.

 

[SpeedyV]

*Also, pretty sure the 'dual exhaust' on the RAM is fake.

Define “fake”. Both outlets are functional. It’s not a true dual-all-the-way system...but the reason H-pipes, X-pipes, and variations of dual-in/dual-out mufflers exist is because a true dual system has drawbacks.

 

[JF19Longhorn]

Define “fake”. Both outlets are functional. It’s not a true dual-all-the-way system...but the reason H-pipes, X-pipes, and variations of dual-in/dual-out mufflers exist is because a true dual system has drawbacks.

Dual exhaust is two back from the motor all the way to the tail pipes, usually with a cross over in between. We have a 2 into 1 pipe, into 1 muffler out to 2 tailpipes. Fake dual exhaust. The Ford Raptors have the same setup, along with the 1993 - 2004(?) F-body twins (Firebird / Camaros).

 

[SpeedyV]

Dual exhaust is two back from the motor all the way to the tail pipes, usually with a cross over in between. We have a 2 into 1 pipe, into 1 muffler out to 2 tailpipes. Fake dual exhaust. The Ford Raptors have the same setup, along with the 1993 - 2004(?) F-body twins (Firebird / Camaros).

Effectively, our (huge) muffler functions as the crossover, much like a dual-in, dual-out muffler. But I'm very familiar with this setup, having owned many vehicles (including one of the aforementioned F-bodies) that employed some version of it. I've also run true duals (no crossover), but exhaust pressure equalization can be an issue.

 

[Buz]

The lightweight aluminum body of the F-150 is what wins the race, it has a better horsepower per ton ratio compared to the Ram

That lightweight aluminum body loses the race when it comes to a quality ride though. My 2018 F-150 felt too light. Not a good feeling when you're driving a truck.
The RAM rides so much smoother. Ford can keep their winning HP to Weight ratio.

 

[Scram1500]

That lightweight aluminum body loses the race when it comes to a quality ride though. My 2018 F-150 felt too light. Not a good feeling when you're driving a truck.
The RAM rides so much smoother. Ford can keep their winning HP to Weight ratio.

Exactly why I went with the Ram. The Ford is skittish while Ram is smooth and irons out the road

 

[BmoreStew]

Sitting at 3k+ rpms for extended periods of time towing a 6k open car trailer just did not sit well with me.

It’ll depend on the hill, but I pull a TT that’s ~6k lbs loaded and have had the same concerns with the 5.7. We’ve pulled it over the Appalachia’s a couple to times and I just keep telling myself “there’s no warning lights. I’m within spec. I’m within spec. I’m within spec” but those oils temps climb!

wife wants to pull the camper up to Lake Placid in the Adirondacks this summer and It’s giving me a little heart burn. I might be upgrading to a 2500 at some point , but the 1500 is such a good daily driver and hasn’t let me down yet.

 

[JF19Longhorn]

It’ll depend on the hill, but I pull a TT that’s ~6k lbs loaded and have had the same concerns with the 5.7. We’ve pulled it over the Appalachia’s a couple to times and I just keep telling myself “there’s no warning lights. I’m within spec. I’m within spec. I’m within spec” but those oils temps climb!

wife wants to pull the camper up to Lake Placid in the Adirondacks this summer and It’s giving me a little heart burn. I might be upgrading to a 2500 at some point , but the 1500 is such a good daily driver and hasn’t let me down yet.

Oh boy. We're heading from South Jersey to Pigeon Forge area TN in April and planning on towing the motorcycles out there in the enclosed 20' V-nose. Planning on it being in the 7k lbs loaded range, but haven't had it to the scales yet. Should be fun.. that's what warranties are for right?

 

[JF19Longhorn]

Effectively, our (huge) muffler functions as the crossover, much like a dual-in, dual-out muffler. But I'm very familiar with this setup, having owned many vehicles (including one of the aforementioned F-bodies) that employed some version of it. I've also run true duals (no crossover), but exhaust pressure equalization can be an issue.

Except there is a Y-pipe after the cats and several feet of single pipe before you get to the single inlet muffler.

 

[grimreefer]

Racing was the furthest thing from my mind when buying the Ram. Been there, done that when I was younger with multiple prior rides.


...and I didn't buy a Dodge.

 

[jmac]

Define “fake”. Both outlets are functional. It’s not a true dual-all-the-way system...but the reason H-pipes, X-pipes, and variations of dual-in/dual-out mufflers exist is because a true dual system has drawbacks.

The biggest drawback to true dual exhaust is needing 2 catalytic converters. those things are expensive.

 

[SpeedyV]

Except there is a Y-pipe after the cats and several feet of single pipe before you get to the single inlet muffler.

I’ll give Ram partial credit. I’ve seen dual exhausts where only one outlet was even functional

 

[ClancyO]

Oh boy. We're heading from South Jersey to Pigeon Forge area TN in April and planning on towing the motorcycles out there in the enclosed 20' V-nose. Planning on it being in the 7k lbs loaded range, but haven't had it to the scales yet. Should be fun.. that's what warranties are for right?

At 7k your fine. Smart to hit the scales though! I presume your longhorn already had airride, so worst case you might wanna add a sway control wdh.

 

[Grape_Ape]

I'm assuming it was due to gearing on the 5.0 I drove before I test drove the Ram I bought but I felt like the 5.0 wouldn't pull a greasy string out of a horses ***. I test drove a used 5.3l Chevy years ago and I still have nightmares about the 5.3 lol.

Again, I'm definitely chalking it up to gearing but I cannot stand getting in any vehicle and it feeling underpowered for any reason. When I give it some gas I want it to go somewhere.

 

[SD Rebel]

The 5.0 gets a 10 speed, the 5.7 an 8. Lower gears available in the Dodge. Dual exhaust in the Dodge. More HP and torquse in the dodge. Winner?

Dodge of course.

The Ford 5.0L makes 400 hp / 410 ft-lb torque, the RAM 5.7L makes 395 hp / 410 ft-lb torque. So actually the Ford motor is more powerful by 5 hp and same torque.

The big difference is the weight, anywhere from 400 - 700 lbs lighter on the F150 depending on configuration. Not sure how to compare the transmission and gearing however.

I think the ride difference between the two isn't the weight, I think it has more to due with the suspension, the coil overs in the rear is the real reason for the better ride. My 2.7L Ecoboost will honestly smoke my Hemi, but the Hemi is fast enough and the sound quality gives it a sense of occasion a turbo V6 doesn't have.

 

[CJ7nvrstk]

The Ford 5.0L makes 400 hp / 410 ft-lb torque, the RAM 5.7L makes 395 hp / 410 ft-lb torque. So actually the Ford motor is more powerful by 5 hp and same torque.

The big difference is the weight, anywhere from 400 - 700 lbs lighter on the F150 depending on configuration. Not sure how to compare the transmission and gearing however.

I think the ride difference between the two isn't the weight, I think it has more to due with the suspension, the coil overs in the rear is the real reason for the better ride. My 2.7L Ecoboost will honestly smoke my Hemi, but the Hemi is fast enough and the sound quality gives it a sense of occasion a turbo V6 doesn't have.

Hemi Has better low end torque and wider powerband.that more than makes up for the weight difference. Then there’s the comfort aspect of it. Dodge wins again. Doesn’t sound like a Coors Light can on wheels going down the road.