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[1791]

Aussie's got the 265 6 pack "hemi" slant 6 was 280 hp and 310 lb-ft. pretty stout

 

[CH3NO2LOVER]

Was popular in the Calif

Central Valley in California, and bracket racing was popular at the time. And in a certain class...

A Dodge Dart with slant six, 4 barrel carb and intake manifold, LT headers, and an appropriate cam was very competitive. I did not run one, but had friends who did and had fun with them. No change in compression, no forged parts (the engine held up well and did not blow pistons or rings, or suck valves), just straight mechanical mods. I don't recall them even running dual-point distributors not that I know they were available. It was an easy car to drive to school during the week and race on Friday night.

There are sports where a Mini Cooper does well, racing is not always as much about the power as it is about the driver. Though there must be a special thrill about going down a 1/4 mile faster than anyone else ever has.

I am a very big supporter of the /6, I have run mine with 3 side drafts, a 4bbl, a 55mm Turbo, and a 250 progressive Nitrous system (not all at the same time but (except the Nitrous and turbo and that will push a head gasket to the next county)). I have out run many a 5.0 Fox bodies with it in the mid 90's around the Inland Empire.

Where in the Central Valley are you from? My stepdad is from Kingsburg/Tulare and my moms older brother has been back and forth between Bako, Visalia, and Southern California till about 10 years ago when he moved to Chicago.

 

[LouNY]

I like "big" sixs and V8's.
For a working engine I want lower rpm and more torque,
for playing more hp and higher rpm.
So a common rail non-emissioned diesel for working, a high winding manual transmission for playing, 4, 6, 8, 10 or 12 cylinders.

 

[John Kloehr]

Where in the Central Valley are you from?

Moved decades ago. Near Lodi and there was a small "airport" which offered glider flights. Every few weekends in the summer, it became a drag strip. Kingdon airstrip back then.

I remember it closed decades ago, at least the racing went away. Insurance/liability concerns were among the reasons. I just looked to see if I could find any info and wow! It's back:

Kingdon Drags, Lodi, CA | Official Website

kingdondrags.com

 

[HSKR R/T]

Moved decades ago. Near Lodi and there was a small "airport" which offered glider flights. Every few weekends in the summer, it became a drag strip. Kingdon airstrip back then.

I remember it closed decades ago, at least the racing went away. Insurance/liability concerns were among the reasons. I just looked to see if I could find any info and wow! It's back:

Kingdon Drags, Lodi, CA | Official Website

kingdondrags.com

That's good, because I think Sac Raceway closed

 

[CH3NO2LOVER]

Moved decades ago. Near Lodi and there was a small "airport" which offered glider flights. Every few weekends in the summer, it became a drag strip. Kingdon airstrip back then.

I remember it closed decades ago, at least the racing went away. Insurance/liability concerns were among the reasons. I just looked to see if I could find any info and wow! It's back:

Kingdon Drags, Lodi, CA | Official Website

kingdondrags.com

I am pretty familiar with Lodi, my Grandfather worked for Apache Plastics (Santa Anna plant) but would travel up to Lodi (if I remember correctly, he worked out of the Lodi plant for a year or two when they brought some new equipment online in the late 70's/early 80's) sometimes. I would ride with him whenever I had the chance. He is the reason I am the "man" I am today, only male roll model in my life that his word was his bond.

 

[John Kloehr]

I am pretty familiar with Lodi, my Grandfather worked for Apache Plastics (Santa Anna plant) but would travel up to Lodi (if I remember correctly, he worked out of the Lodi plant for a year or two when they brought some new equipment online in the late 70's/early 80's) sometimes. I would ride with him whenever I had the chance. He is the reason I am the "man" I am today, only male roll model in my life that his word was his bond.

Off topic, was just trying to sound out your screen name... Chenotu? Took a minute to see nitromethane! Nitro for short. Good to make your acquaintance.

 

[Oldphart]

I'm a bit older, almost twice your years. I remember a Dodge engine called the Slant Six. It was a popular platform for a bit of rodding. Header, higher compression slugs, 4 barrel manifold and a carb to match, and a few other items. A few grinders even made some good cams for them. They were fun, easy to work on, and ran well.

My late FIL used to restore Cortez motor homes in his spare time. He came across a creampuff cosmetically but the 226/6 was trashed. It was the "industrial" version of the 6. He developed a turbo system for it using an enclosed carb. After toying with it, he got it running very well. The later models used a 455/Toronado drivetrain. He used to go the various Cortez events and never lost a race to the later models. Rebuilt properly, those industrial /6's would hold just about any power level one cared to put thru them.

 

[CH3NO2LOVER]

Off topic, was just trying to sound out your screen name... Chenotu? Took a minute to see nitromethane! Nitro for short. Good to make your acquaintance.

I have been around Drag Racing and Flat Track motorcycles my entire life. My mom and dad produced me at Orange County Raceway and my mom was the back up girl for a friend of her brothers at the '78 March Meet a month or so before I was born. Nice to met you

 

[CH3NO2LOVER]

My late FIL used to restore Cortez motor homes in his spare time. He came across a creampuff cosmetically but the 226/6 was trashed. It was the "industrial" version of the 6. He developed a turbo system for it using an enclosed carb. After toying with it, he got it running very well. The later models used a 455/Toronado drivetrain. He used to go the various Cortez events and never lost a race to the later models. Rebuilt properly, those industrial /6's would hold just about any power level one cared to put thru them.

Boosting a /6 and beating up on V8's is a glorious thing. The biggest issue (it has several other issues also) with the 6 is the head design, I want to say at about 30psi you are pushing to much and it reverberates back and starts to put a lot of back pressure on the turbo

 

[Oldphart]

Boosting a /6 and beating up on V8's is a glorious thing. The biggest issue (it has several other issues also) with the 6 is the head design, I want to say at about 30psi you are pushing to much and it reverberates back and starts to put a lot of back pressure on the turbo

Never really got into the specifics with him. He was one of those guys that always did everything himself. All I know is that you never need to use the compound low in the trans. I got it up to 80+ once and chickened out after that. It had the aerodynamics of a brick and love to wander land to lane.

 

[OldMarine]

Was popular in the Calif

Central Valley in California, and bracket racing was popular at the time. And in a certain class...

A Dodge Dart with slant six, 4 barrel carb and intake manifold, LT headers, and an appropriate cam was very competitive. I did not run one, but had friends who did and had fun with them.

born in 58, I know all about these engines. Could be the greatest engine ever made, for EVERYDAY use.....but NOT a hot rod candidate. Sure, there were some weirdo's who did one up here and there, but small V8's ruled the day back in the 60's and 70's...big blocks were more powerful, but small block V*'s were EVERYWHERE. 283, 289, 327, 350's....no one bragged about their 225!

 

[LouNY]

I have been around Drag Racing and Flat Track motorcycles my entire life. My mom and dad produced me at Orange County Raceway and my mom was the back up girl for a friend of her brothers at the '78 March Meet a month or so before I was born. Nice to met you

I used to really enjoy Orange County back in the 70's when I was stationed in El Toro.

 

[StuartV]

when I was 18 i was all about going fast and getting the newest tech.
now im 34 this year, I want something dependable, proven, fun to drive, sounds good, and **** the environmentalists off. I don't chase the latest tech, because I've learned that chasing the latest tech means... unreliable. And it's even better if it creates so much emission that it blows an environmentalist's brain lol

I can't even imagine going through life making conscious choices just to **** off some group of people.

Talk about letting someone else control you...

As for the OP, I agree. I want my truck to be quiet, haul my stuff, and, ideally, haul ***.

My '21 EcoDiesel, with GDE tune, is way more enjoyable for ME than the 2 Hemis I had before the ED. It's faster off the line, with a 3.21 rear end, than my brother's '20 Hemi with a 3.92. He only catches up and starts to pull ahead when we're hitting about 60 MPH or so. And the ED is way better for towing anything. Not to mention 700+ miles between fill-ups.

That said, if everything works out, I'm trading the ED in tomorrow on a '25 Limited. That SST HO is WAY more fun to drive than the Hemis I had OR the EcoDiesel. Some people are concerned with looks. Some with sound. I want performance. I'll take quiet performance over "all show and no go" (i.e. loud but slow) any time.

 

[boogielander]

I can't even imagine going through life making conscious choices just to **** off some group of people.

Talk about letting someone else control you...

As for the OP, I agree. I want my truck to be quiet, haul my stuff, and, ideally, haul ***.

My '21 EcoDiesel, with GDE tune, is way more enjoyable for ME than the 2 Hemis I had before the ED. It's faster off the line, with a 3.21 rear end, than my brother's '20 Hemi with a 3.92. He only catches up and starts to pull ahead when we're hitting about 60 MPH or so. And the ED is way better for towing anything. Not to mention 700+ miles between fill-ups.

That said, if everything works out, I'm trading the ED in tomorrow on a '25 Limited. That SST HO is WAY more fun to drive than the Hemis I had OR the EcoDiesel. Some people are concerned with looks. Some with sound. I want performance. I'll take quiet performance over "all show and no go" (i.e. loud but slow) any time.

what can i say i live to offend and making environmentalist is an added side bonus.
i'm not US Dollar so i know im not liked by everyone... hell, these days some people don't like USD anyways lol

 

[1791]

long term owner here i do my own labor and i can confidently fix any naturally aspirated push rod V8 even a penstar V6 is easy.
2 turbo's burning gasoline is a no go for me.
i like choices you should not be forced to drive a EV. if you choose that good for you.T-6 great, i choose a V8.

 

[StuartV]

long term owner here i do my own labor and i can confidently fix any naturally aspirated push rod V8 even a penstar V6 is easy.
2 turbo's burning gasoline is a no go for me.
i like choices you should not be forced to drive a EV. if you choose that good for you.T-6 great, i choose a V8.

So, what does that mean in terms of your truck and how much you can fix?

Can you fix a blown tranny? Transfer case? Rear end?

What about dead air conditioning? Wiring for a window that doesn't go up/down properly? Cruise control that isn't working? Controls for the A/C or radio that aren't working? Dead air suspension? Fuel injection that isn't working right and it's not just a sensor that needs to be replaced?

If you can fix all of that yourself, that is awesome. Seriously!

For ME, well, I'm not likely to fix pretty much any of that myself. Could I? I reckon I could. I'm very handy and mechanically inclined. I've done virtually all my own motorcycle maintenance for over 30 years. But, on my truck, I mostly just wouldn't. I'd rather pay someone than spend that time and effort myself.

And if I could work on my engine but not my tranny or all that other stuff, well... If "I can't work on the engine" is a reason to not buy the truck, then why isn't "I can't work on the tranny" also a reason? Or "I can't work on the XYZ"?

Is it because you think everything else is very unlikely to break, versus the engine IS something likely to break?

I can see that. I bought 2 new Hemis in my history. I put almost 270K miles on them, combined. In that 270K miles, I had to have the "Hemi exhaust leak" repair (broken manifold bolts and/or cracked exhaust manifold) done 7 or 8 times, and my last Hemi was sounding like it needed the repair for the 2nd time when I traded it in at 72K miles.

Choices are great. If someone chooses a V8 over a SST, cool. Choosing less HP and less torque and a motor that is proven to have known, consistent problems just to have a certain sound or just so you can repair one thing on the truck yourself is one of the freedoms we do still enjoy in America.

I look at the Hemi just like I like at Harley motorcycles. An important part of American history. Very nostalgic for many. And some people are really only concerned with "show" where others, like me, are only concerned with "go". There is room for all of us and nothing wrong with being either one or somewhere in the middle.

 

[1791]

So, what does that mean in terms of your truck and how much you can fix?

Can you fix a blown tranny? Transfer case? Rear end?

What about dead air conditioning? Wiring for a window that doesn't go up/down properly? Cruise control that isn't working? Controls for the A/C or radio that aren't working? Dead air suspension? Fuel injection that isn't working right and it's not just a sensor that needs to be replaced?

If you can fix all of that yourself, that is awesome. Seriously!

For ME, well, I'm not likely to fix pretty much any of that myself. Could I? I reckon I could. I'm very handy and mechanically inclined. I've done virtually all my own motorcycle maintenance for over 30 years. But, on my truck, I mostly just wouldn't. I'd rather pay someone than spend that time and effort myself.

And if I could work on my engine but not my tranny or all that other stuff, well... If "I can't work on the engine" is a reason to not buy the truck, then why isn't "I can't work on the tranny" also a reason? Or "I can't work on the XYZ"?

Is it because you think everything else is very unlikely to break, versus the engine IS something likely to break?

I can see that. I bought 2 new Hemis in my history. I put almost 270K miles on them, combined. In that 270K miles, I had to have the "Hemi exhaust leak" repair (broken manifold bolts and/or cracked exhaust manifold) done 7 or 8 times, and my last Hemi was sounding like it needed the repair for the 2nd time when I traded it in at 72K miles.

Choices are great. If someone chooses a V8 over a SST, cool. Choosing less HP and less torque and a motor that is proven to have known, consistent problems just to have a certain sound or just so you can repair one thing on the truck yourself is one of the freedoms we do still enjoy in America.

I look at the Hemi just like I like at Harley motorcycles. An important part of American history. Very nostalgic for many. And some people are really only concerned with "show" where others, like me, are only concerned with "go". There is room for all of us and nothing wrong with being either one or somewhere in the middle.

rear end yes, a/c yes, i was actually a dealership mechanic. rebuild a tranny no but i can remove and replace it. totally replace everything in the suspension yes. basically any mechanical part is a yes. the new vehicles such as ram i admit the electronic control with all the modules instead of physical relays makes it hard if not impossible to fix more than a mechanical part. but hay i see even the dealerships have problems fixing those item's LOL. i don't rock the 5.7 because the "sound". what know issues? lifter issue not a problem replace them and do a mds delete, cracking exhaust manifold again not a big deal IMO. if you change truck's every time the lease is up or the next best thing grabs you than by all means enjoy yourself. i am not that well off so i had to learn to keep what i have going. it's to early for the I-6 issues to show but melting cat's and random misfires are not good sign's of things to come.
i retire in 7 years and i don't want a payment for the rest of my life or big repair bills. i want my house paid off and i will more than likely roll it back to a truck from the 90's sort of resto modded. up dated powertrain with easy/cheap to repair everything else.
my 85 year old neighbor has a 66 chevy truck that he's had since 66 he still drives it i doubt he thought it would last him the rest of his life when he got it. now that same neighbor does also has a 2024 Colorado. so new vehicle is still nice but not necessary.

 

[Jake1050]

People my age were all about engines in cars and now it seems more like nobody really cares. Tons of people buy cars without even giving two shakes what engine is in it or even if the model comes with more than one engine as an option. They just care if the engine starts and moves the car down the road. Now talking about trucks there are the 5% that will actually need to tow/load heavy stuff so they are a little different.

 

[CalvinC]

People my age were all about engines in cars and now it seems more like nobody really cares. Tons of people buy cars without even giving two shakes what engine is in it or even if the model comes with more than one engine as an option. They just care if the engine starts and moves the car down the road. Now talking about trucks there are the 5% that will actually need to tow/load heavy stuff so they are a little different.

That’s because what really matters is how many screens there are, and how big?