Fuelly e-torque MPG - first numbers posted

[rvsixer]

First e-torque Hemi being tracked at fuelly.com. 19.6mpg 50% city/hwy mix. Not bad.

http://www.fuelly.com/car/ram/1500/2019/roamer402/828276

 

[2019REBEL]

Damn I just converted to my numbers and damn you are paying 68 cents a litre.

 

[Duane]

First e-torque Hemi being tracked at fuelly.com. 19.6mpg 50% city/hwy mix. Not bad.

http://www.fuelly.com/car/ram/1500/2019/roamer402/828276

Was that Ram a 2WD or 4WD?.....it does not say.

 

[rvsixer]

Damn I just converted to my numbers and damn you are paying 68 cents a litre.

Some in the US are paying that. Where I am on the left coast its more like $1.02 USD/liter ($1.33/liter CAN).

 

[768mph]

I’m sure it’ll get better as it breaks in as well.

 

[alow]

I just posted mine up on fuelly but I did a bunch of towing mixed in. On the bright side my towing mpg was pretty good considering I was going up and down hill a bunch in traffic. I'll be curious to see what I get just driving normal and on mostly highways.

 

[Jus Cruisin]

18.5 actual with mine on a trip from Florida to Michigan yesterday. That was at my fill up in Ohio. 1073 accumulated miles and 3 fills totalling 58 gallons. I was likely in the 19's during my last fill as I checked the first fill up and it was 17.3 mpg if I remember. I'm not typically a mpg checker.

 

[rvsixer]

I’m sure it’ll get better as it breaks in as well.

I myself have found modern engines don't appear to have a real break in. I've tracked fuel mileage as accurately as I can on 3 vehicles since new (gassers and diesels, topped off to same'ish level each fill, using GPS corrected odometer readings, odometer correction factor recalibrated with each new set of tires, etc. etc.).

None had a statistically noteworthy increase/decrease in mpg through their lifetime. My current diesel, first 30 day average was 14.8mpg, now 12 years/120K miles later average is 15.2 (attributed to a change from 75% city/25%hwy to a 40% city/60% hwy daily commute). Still gets average 12-13 city, and 21-22 hwy like clockwork. Towing/hauling is all over the place depending on whats in or hanging off the back of course.

 

[rvsixer]

I just posted mine up on fuelly but I did a bunch of towing mixed in. On the bright side my towing mpg was pretty good considering I was going up and down hill a bunch in traffic. I'll be curious to see what I get just driving normal and on mostly highways.

I'm still only seeing the single e-torque hemi posted at fuelly.com. Are you sure you picked the "5.7L V8 ELECTRIC/GAS" category?

 

[alacombe]

I myself have found modern engines don't appear to have a real break in. I've tracked fuel mileage as accurately as I can on 3 vehicles since new (gassers and diesels, topped off to same'ish level each fill, using GPS corrected odometer readings, odometer correction factor recalibrated with each new set of tires, etc. etc.).

None had a statistically noteworthy increase/decrease in mpg through their lifetime. My current diesel, first 30 day average was 14.8mpg, now 12 years/120K miles later average is 15.2 (attributed to a change from 75% city/25%hwy to a 40% city/60% hwy daily commute). Still gets average 12-13 city, and 21-22 hwy like clockwork. Towing/hauling is all over the place depending on whats in or hanging off the back of course.

I agree

 

[alow]

I'm still only seeing the single e-torque hemi posted at fuelly.com. Are you sure you picked the "5.7L V8 ELECTRIC/GAS" category?

I'm actually a hemi straight gas.

 

[rvsixer]

I'm actually a hemi straight gas.

Okay cool. It's a fuelly etorque mpg thread, so just anxiously awaiting more etorque numbers ! So far on fuelly etorque has a 4mpg advantage over straight hemi (but statistically of little significance due to the small sampling). I am going to guess as more data is accumulated, etorque real world advantage will be a consistent 2-3mpg.

 

[Jus Cruisin]

Okay cool. It's a fuelly etorque mpg thread, so just anxiously awaiting more etorque numbers ! So far on fuelly etorque has a 4mpg advantage over straight hemi (but statistically of little significance due to the small sampling). I am going to guess as more data is accumulated, etorque real world advantage will be a consistent 2-3mpg.

I will be way more than satisfied if that happens. But I don't think we'll see much more than 1 or 1.5 mpg advantage.

 

[alow]

Okay cool. It's a fuelly etorque mpg thread, so just anxiously awaiting more etorque numbers ! So far on fuelly etorque has a 4mpg advantage over straight hemi (but statistically of little significance due to the small sampling). I am going to guess as more data is accumulated, etorque real world advantage will be a consistent 2-3mpg.

What? I'm supposed to read titles? Sorry I did a search for fuelly and just clicked.

 

[rvsixer]

Okay we have a second etorque being tracked on fuelly. 2019 1500 stats so far:
Hemi (standard) = 14.78 mpg (US) over 33,860 miles miles tracked
Hemi (etorque) = 18.12 mpg (US) over 1,943 miles tracked

Going to be interesting if the 3.3 mpg gap increases or decreases as miles tracked increases (but I am holding to my 2-3 mpg swag lol). Based on my own experience and usage, not idling at every extended stop is good for ~1.5 mpg savings, so the rest of the increase appears to be coming from using etorque for the off the line start before the Hemi takes the reigns.

My next truck money is going to whoever has the best mpg V8 (and a big tank option), could etorque be it?

 

[Rustydodge]

I'm less optimistic and predict the gap will settle at about +1.5 MPG for etorque. I'd expect non-etorque to eventually settle closer to 15.5 MPG average (based on 14-18 results) and etorque to land at about 17 MPG average (10% improvement) or just under. I think it will be neck and neck between the new 2019 GM 5.3 (DFM, more 8 speeds now, lighter truck) and the 2019 etorque for real world MPG crown. GM 6.2 on premium is in the heat with mid 16s as well as the 2018 Ford 5.0 with light truck and 10 speed.

With only 8 trucks reporting the Chevy 5.3 eassist was barely the V8 leader at about 16.85 (not much improvement over standard 5.3). It was only +13hp/+44lbft though.

Ram slightly disadvantaged with 3.92s beginning to be more commonly optioned and heavier base weight. I don't think Ford/GM 10 speed is much more efficient than ZF 8.

 

[768mph]

I myself have found modern engines don't appear to have a real break in. I've tracked fuel mileage as accurately as I can on 3 vehicles since new (gassers and diesels, topped off to same'ish level each fill, using GPS corrected odometer readings, odometer correction factor recalibrated with each new set of tires, etc. etc.).

None had a statistically noteworthy increase/decrease in mpg through their lifetime. My current diesel, first 30 day average was 14.8mpg, now 12 years/120K miles later average is 15.2 (attributed to a change from 75% city/25%hwy to a 40% city/60% hwy daily commute). Still gets average 12-13 city, and 21-22 hwy like clockwork. Towing/hauling is all over the place depending on whats in or hanging off the back of course.

I have found the complete opposite. I guess that’s how statistics are made. Different drivers, locations, fuel...variables.
Maybe it’s not the vehicle, maybe it’s the driver.

I’ve seen an average 2-3 mpg boost once broken in on all vehicles. But I always have ritual of changing oil to synthetic at 1500 Miles and issuing top tier or ethanol free fuel (when available).

 

[rvsixer]

I’ve seen an average 2-3 mpg boost once broken in on all vehicles.

Interesting. How was that boost tracked? If it's anything but hand calculated using corrected odometer readings, it's most likely inaccurate (...and forget about fuel LOM's ). And when was the mpg boost realized (modern engines are basically broken in after the first tank so I am curious)? Also noted comment about use of fuels having different energy content, which can cause a significant affect on mpg.

 

[Neurobit]

Okay we have a second etorque being tracked on fuelly. 2019 1500 stats so far:
Hemi (standard) = 14.78 mpg (US) over 33,860 miles miles tracked
Hemi (etorque) = 18.12 mpg (US) over 1,943 miles tracked

Going to be interesting if the 3.3 mpg gap increases or decreases as miles tracked increases (but I am holding to my 2-3 mpg swag lol). Based on my own experience and usage, not idling at every extended stop is good for ~1.5 mpg savings, so the rest of the increase appears to be coming from using etorque for the off the line start before the Hemi takes the reigns.

My next truck money is going to whoever has the best mpg V8 (and a big tank option), could etorque be it?

Just don't use mine for comparison, as I have a very short commute that kills my mileage (in all my vehicles). If I don't do any kind of Fwy driving, I average 8-5-9.5 MPG... :O

 

[BostonBlueRam]

Not to get too philosophical but i wonder if there is a certain level of driver self selection here between the eTorque and non-eTorque numbers? Meaning the folks that buy eTorque might be more econo-conscious so they would tend to drive very eco-friendly (slow acceleration, smoother on the pedal) whereas the non-etorque drivers don't give a sh*t and its pedal to the metal baby!