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Ah, gotcha. I'm insisting on a buy back, and everything I've paid on payments so far. I'm also going to try for at least some money for the months of insurance payments.

I don't know. Did they buy yours back, paying you back all money you spent on payments?

I think I started the lemon law process this last November. I still haven't received an offer from ram yet, but the lawyer's office thinks one will be forthcoming soon. Ram took a long time to respond to the law firm's letters, well over a month if I remember correctly. So, you should...

Electronics absolutely can fail by going temperature sensitive, both cold and hot. There's probably a slightly bad solder joint somewhere in your pcm. If warming it up causes it to start without having to jump the vehicle, that's a strong sign right there that the problem is not related to...

That will be interesting. I'm guessing either it will turn out to be an oxygen sensor gone bad or the catalytic converter in question gone bad.

Lawyer was my fix. Well, that and a new rcsb f150, from which I've had zero problems so far. Making two truck payments sucks, but I don't worry about whether the truck is going to **** the bed on me just driving across town.

Lots of misfires, unsolvable at the dealer level.

That sounds like an excellent strategy. I wish I had followed something similar. I'm currently making two truck payments, as I wait for the lemon law process on my '25 laramie. My '24 rcsb f150 has given me zero trouble so far.

I'm literally on the way to pick up a new ford as I type this. Stellantis is hustling backward...

First I've heard of it. Maybe once the lemon law process on my '25 laramie is finished I can get another with an HO. Just kidding! (about getting another, not about the lemon law)

Cool story bro.

Nice try at putting words in my mouth, but no, that's not what I mean OR said. According to at least one poster above, some of these sensor systems work better than others, with the ram setup being at the bad and of the spectrum. Perhaps I should rephrase what I said-if you're going to take...

Note to engineers: If you find yourself taking something that is very simple and has worked for decades and totally complicating it, you are probably ****ing up. Please stop.

Oh no, we're waaay past that point. I lawyered up. I tried to do it the easy way by requesting a buyback and got no response for long enough that I gave up trying to do it the easy way. After I hired a law firm I finally heard from them, declining the buyback of course. We will now do things...

Have you not started the lemon law process yet? If not, why not?

I just made my 4th payment yesterday. I've managed to get roughly 600 miles out of my truck myself, the rest of the roughly 1000 miles it has on it were put on it by the dealer service department trying to diagnose the cause of the endless misfires and misfire codes. That's slightly over $6.47...

Based on my experience, and that of many others on here, prepare for lots more disappointment.

I haven't had a minute's trouble out of my truck. Of course, I'm talking about my '97 diesel 2500 with 338,000 miles on it. The 2025 ram 1500, it's still in the shop.

It's normal.

The latest pcm flash that I know of seems to be primarily aimed at preventing the cel from coming on no matter how bad the misfiring. This allows people in states with inspections that fail you for having codes stored to pass. It's an end run around the problem, probably buying them more time...