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No, trust me, I get it and why my next will most likely NOT be a Ram. I don't recall 2019s sitting at the dealers with CELs, but then again I didn't have issues needing to be fixed. Why did Stellantis completely redo the entire truck but not the sheet metal? Seems *** backwards to me. To the...

My apologies. It's hard to say what your issue is, but glad you know the codes. No confusion here... these are your posts (must have missed the one you quoted above)... From those, it sounded like you were defending the Hurricane. But then I see this one, why on earth did you buy a '25...

No axe to grind, I've owned twin turbo pickups before. My 2.7 was flawless and the 3.5 ate a turbo (but Ford fixed it quickly). Stellantis just seems to be screwing Ram with this '25 launch and the Hurricane doesn't appear to be helping. You seemed awful quick to defend the Hurricane, then...

Sucks to see this, but 8 codes? Did you get a listing of what they are? Weren't you just saying the other day how great the Hurricane is? Sure glad many of you are breaking this in for Stellantis, it'll be resolved long before I buy another truck...

I had similar great weather in early June, the Tetons look very different without snow on them...

The Wagoneer isn't throwing CELs like the Ram is... I don't have a dog in this fight, but tell it to the guys with 2025s that are parked at the dealer, awaiting a fix...

That looks fantastic!

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Ford puts many decals on the trucks at the main plant as they go down the line (FX4), not sure it would go off site just for a decal.

Be it as it may, Stellantis still doesn't have a fix for it.

I'll ask again... The answer is, they are not! Stellantis got something wrong with the Hurricane in the Ram and have yet to come up with a resolution...

Glad you pulled through and congrats on a sharp truck! Looking forward to hearing how you like it once you pick it up.

Thanks, but the Hurricane in the Wagnoneer isn't equal to that in the Ram. Are Wagoneers throwing CELs like Rams are?

Not sure I'd rush in to be the first for a Stellantis software fix, software doesn't seem to be their strong suit...

I thought it overheated during one of TFLTs tests? And IIRC, someone on here yesterday said they wanted to tear his Hurricane down over the CEL issue...

Didn't say that was why. Just pointing out a guy who works at a dealer service dept wouldn't buy it...

Very sharp truck, you have great taste (if I don't say so myself)!

Sure wish @Russian Tank would drop back by and provide an update...

You said it yourself earlier, you wouldn't buy a new Stellantis... Is it? New engines being torn down over misfire CELs that they can't resolve? Guys who can't hack in and add options / enable factory power steps? Once Stellantis figures it out, sure. IMO, very small improvements over...

They made it harder for the end user to modify. From the consumers perspective, largely unchanged aside from the engine. It's a mild refresh... How's the average driver perceive it? Largely unchanged.