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    Clayton Offroad 2.5" Jeep Gladiator Springs on 2020 Rebel

    No. they'll work with any of OE shocks from Fox or King or Icon made for your truck. You can get longer shocks if you wanted from any vendor up to 29.75" extended.
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    $1400 for leveling kit

    Typically shock and spring as one unit but In the case of Eibach or Bistein 5100, it's the assembly without the spring. you'll have to transfer your factory coils, strut top mount etc. The 6112's do include the springs but you still have to transfer the factory strut top mount to the 6112's...
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    $1400 for leveling kit

    Get a pair of Eibach struts and have them set at 1.8" (Both will cost you around $230 or so), or 5100 at 2" (both will cost you around $250). With install and aligment you should below the $1400 mark. If you want something better you can get Bilstein 6112's for $730 and same thing have them set...
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    Just Bought the 2021 North Edition asked dealer for Best Leveling kit and they tried to sell me some 85.00 Spacers?

    The left picture implies the loss of uptravel. the top spacer is shifting the entire assembly down and your bumpstop is still in the same spot, so your strut is still stopping in the same place 2-3" down the assembly because the entire strut is pushed down from the top. Makes sense ? Not...
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    Just Bought the 2021 North Edition asked dealer for Best Leveling kit and they tried to sell me some 85.00 Spacers?

    Top spacers can affect a lot more components in your suspension. See if the visuals can help you and others like you reading this stuff. 1/2" top spacers are ok. 2-3" are not. you're overextending components that were not designed to move down that much within your IFS. Adding preload to the...
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    Why does the majority here use spacer lifts?

    Cost for some, Some don't know what they're missing, some don't need this type of suspension upgrades etc., a lot of people in the truck community simply want to lift the front to get rid of the rake or to accomodate bigger tires and they won't care how they get there. The higher they go for...
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    steering/truck feels loose and unstable

    Take it back and have them realign the truck. Tell them to pay atention to the camber specs. You driver from tire is riding like this |, while your passenger is going like this \, should be fairly noticeable if your look at your truck from the front. ask them for at least 0.1* camber on both...
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    Alignment specs for leveled 2021

    This was my print out couple of months ago after adding bumper and winch and adding around 4-5 turns in my coilovers to add more preload to counteract the effects of new weight. Notice how everything moved, and this wasn't 2" more. it was prob 3/4 on both sides. I like a slightly neg camber...
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    Eibach PRO-TRUCK SPORT SHOCK (NON-ORP)

    Measure before and after. i'd think you'll land in the 2" area with them in the 3rd perch.
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    Alignment specs for leveled 2021

    Yep the specs should have changed after lift. Mine will change (mostly Toe) when i've messed with my coilovers adding 2-3 turns in them to go higher 1/2 or so, when you do 2" everything should move a bit. I'm very anal with my aligment prob why i've never has a single issue with my tires wearing...
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    Eibach PRO-TRUCK SPORT SHOCK (NON-ORP)

    Considering they're not advertising anything with ORP you might think you'll get their listed values depending on what perch you set them with your factory springs. They're good struts in my opinion better than Bisltein 5100's.
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    Alignment specs for leveled 2021

    They only adjusted toe. You went from a slightly toe out to in where it actually should be. Total .10 Your camber is literally zero and your caster is on the high side. Nothing wrong with that. What's your tire pressure cold?
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    Clayton Offroad 2.5" Jeep Gladiator Springs on 2020 Rebel

    Doubt it. The Icon 1.5" are RAM specific and i had exactly the same issue. I had the same issue with progressive springs in my BMW. Just the nature on some springs especially when they're longer and have progressive rates. Icon doesn't list specs but Clayton does. From simple observations we...
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    Alignment specs for leveled 2021

    Post your alignment report sheet.
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    My Bed CRACKED!

    Good luck bro. Don't tell them you're having fun in washboards and chit. Give it a good wash and when you get there tell them the truck is a mall crawler and that you don't understand why the bed has cracked like that.
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    Clayton Offroad 2.5" Jeep Gladiator Springs on 2020 Rebel

    Since most of the Clayton info is this thread i thought it'll be a good idea to leave this here as well for others to see. If you're getting a clacking noise with your Clayton springs is because the dead coils might be hitting each other when the spring compresses, you hit a bump, or a pothole...
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    Clayton Offroad 2.5" Jeep Gladiator Springs on 2020 Rebel

    The Clayton 2.5" coils will lift your truck butt 2.5" if you didn't have the ORP package. 3.5" coils will lift 3.5". If you have ORP then substract 1" to the overall height, so 1.5" on top of what you had with ORP with the 2.5 coils, 2.5" with the 3.5" coils. If you end up with the 3.5" you...
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    Fab Tech or BDS

    You may be lucky the shop have a set of shocks for the Fabtech kit. Fox turn around time is about 4-5 months, Kings is about 4 months, Icon is about the same. Dirtlogic makes the shocks for the Fabtech kit. Race shocks have always been wait in items, sometimes retailers order a couple more, or...
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    do I really need diff drop kit if using leveling shocks?

    No. you can use leveling struts up to 2.8" or so without any drama. The drop diff comes with 4-6" lift kits.
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    Rear lift options

    I haven't seen anybody around with those complaint yet about coil spring slap. This happens when the softer portion on the progressive coils can be too close to each other and hit each other making a clack sound as the vehicle hits a bump. I've had that situation with Icon 1.5" springs and with...
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