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I always answer that one with "Well, that's entirely dependent on the sales price of the vehicle, so let's work together to get that figured out first."

1)Anything you pay for the truck that remains with the dealership( the sales price, dealer fees, doc fees, add-ons, etc....any money that stays with the dealership) is what you paid for the truck. Subtract any and all rebates. Total that. 100-(That total/MSRP)= Your percentage off MSRP...

Congrats on a screamin deal. Even counting the $1000 dealer fee ( it counts...you paid the dealer), thats 22.2% off.

Interesting revisionist spin. Thanks for confirming.

Well, unless you're spending the money on his truck, that's irrelevant. Lots of mods seem strange to lots of people. By your logic, unless you have a very specific reason for needing them now, spending money for a lift kit or new wheels and tires is crazy. For you, the reasoning might be "...

Debt free is a good approach too. Pros and cons to both attacks. Yes...hopefully he listens.

Same radical concept works with financing a purchase.

Some of us have figured out that putting a large lump sum of cash into a depreciating asset isn't as good as financing at low to no interest and investing that same amount and making returns in excess of any finance charges, resulting in having a truck AND capital gains vs. just the truck...

I see what you're thinking, but if the truck gets totaled, the difference in what you put in vs what insurance paid goes poof. Additionally, if you're planning to buy the lease at the end, with that much of a down payment, just buy it now anyway. If you're planning to get out of the vehicle at...

In no way, shape, or form should you put that equity into a lease. If you're gonna go swimming, might as well get wet. I.e...if you're going to reduce the cost of the vehicle by that much, buy the thing.

At worst, it gives you an option and a 'floor.' Depending on how the algorithm is pricing things, you'd be surprised at what you can get from carvana. Having that offer in your pocket is useful, even if only as leverage.

The price is what you agree to when you order. You're just gambling on what the rebate will be to reduce the price when you take delivery. Maybe semantics in the grand scheme, but important psychology.

Heh...why hold back? Tell them to give you cash to drive it away. In all seriousness, I imagine every dealer is dealing with a long list of potential buyers today trying to strongarm on the last day of the year. I envision a big game of chicken and a late night. I hope that anyone trying to...

25% is a big outlier. All bets are off on a day like today though. Anything approaching 20% on a vehicle you want vs. something your'e settling on is really really good.

When searching for my truck, inventory that had the ASG was limited. I considered opting for a non-ASG equipped truck because of that. After sticking to my guns and traveling to get the truck I wanted vs. settling for one that was close, I can honestly say that I would be dissapointed if I...

Bummer. Wonder what happened between the time you bought it and when you noticed it to make it wavy.

Well, thats like...your opinion, man.

Clearly you don't. I didn't basically tell him his qualm was invalid. I pointed out that it isn't a show truck when he mentioned he is used to custom show tucks. Peace be with you.

I simply said it isn't a show truck. Nothing silly about that. The guy said he's a perfectionist used to show cars. Maybe its wavy, maybe its just a regular ole' non show truck variety panel.

Virtually imperceptible to reasonable eye waves in a door panel <> junk. The guy said he's a perfectionist used to custom show cars. These aren't that is all Im saying. The machine that stamps and the hands that install the $30k tradesman doors are the same that stamp and install the limited...