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Etorque Sensitivity

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I was just wondering if anyone else has to take of from a stop like your driving with an egg under the accelerator to prevent chirping the tires. I have good tires on the truck.
If there is any kind of moisture on the road I will spin the tires even when babying it.
 
Mine works good but I usually have it off ( Tazer ). Maybe that right foot is just to heavy. lol
 
I was just wondering if anyone else has to take of from a stop like your driving with an egg under the accelerator to prevent chirping the tires. I have good tires on the truck.
If there is any kind of moisture on the road I will spin the tires even when babying it.
if i'm not mistaken, the etorque system only activates whenever the vehicle is coming back on after auto start stop. not every single time you accelerate from a dead stop.
 
if i'm not mistaken, the etorque system only activates whenever the vehicle is coming back on after auto start stop. not every single time you accelerate from a dead stop.
The system does add torque for the first half turn of the wheels according to videos that were regularly circulated when 5th gens first came out with etorque.
 
I have to be careful with my Rebel. 3.90 rear gear combined with that low first gear in the A8 makes for plenty of torque. Also have the eTorque system but that has nothing to do with it on my truck.

The eTorque system does provide some torque on engine start, but not once the engine is running. It would come into play when switching from brake to gas quickly. In what for me is normal driving, there is enough time between when I lift my foot off the brake and move over to the gas pedal for the engine to already be running. I bet if I did it real fast, I would just burn rubber due to a bit much gas pedal.
 
I have to be careful with my Rebel. 3.90 rear gear combined with that low first gear in the A8 makes for plenty of torque. Also have the eTorque system but that has nothing to do with it on my truck.

The eTorque system does provide some torque on engine start, but not once the engine is running. It would come into play when switching from brake to gas quickly. In what for me is normal driving, there is enough time between when I lift my foot off the brake and move over to the gas pedal for the engine to already be running. I bet if I did it real fast, I would just burn rubber due to a bit much gas pedal.
Perhaps you mis-spoke. Etorque provides no torque on engine start but does add torque on take-off.

There is a lot of misinformation that's thrown around in forums. I would encourage anyone who really wants to understand how the system works to search the web for any of the dozens of articles and videos which explain it, and avoid forums for that information because of the contradictory information that exists in them.
 
The system does add torque for the first half turn of the wheels according to videos that were regularly circulated when 5th gens first came out with etorque.

My understanding when I watched those videos, is that only occurred after the Start/Stop.

From what I read/watched, the only help the eTorque gives while driving is making the transmission shifts more smooth.
 
My understanding when I watched those videos, is that only occurred after the Start/Stop.

From what I read/watched, the only help the eTorque gives while driving is making the transmission shifts more smooth.
This video explains it pretty well if you have 6 minutes...

 
Perhaps you mis-spoke. Etorque provides no torque on engine start but does add torque on take-off.

There is a lot of misinformation that's thrown around in forums. I would encourage anyone who really wants to understand how the system works to search the web for any of the dozens of articles and videos which explain it, and avoid forums for that information because of the contradictory information that exists in them.

This video explains it pretty well if you have 6 minutes...

Seems a mix of I mis-spoke and mis-understood as to how the system works. The video is a clearer explanation than what I wrote, and it does provide more torque to the road in the early rev pulling away from a stop sign. The video shows it does so for longer than I understood it to provide the electric boost.
 
this is what i was trying to explain, when turning back on from a auto start stop cycle.
It’s not just after an auto start stop cycle. For instance, if you disable stop/start the etorque motor/generator adds torque when taking off from a stop. Disabling stop/start does not disable the other features of etorque.
 
It’s not just after an auto start stop cycle. For instance, if you disable stop/start the etorque motor/generator adds torque when taking off from a stop. Disabling stop/start does not disable the other features of etorque.
Agree. For instance if the AC system can not keep up so auto-start (stop/start) is disabled, the system does still provide some additional torque off the line. Almost never happens for me unless I set the system to max cooling.

As part of my earlier comments, was wondering about the axle ratio for the original question. I have 3.90:1 and the A8 has such a low 1st gear, the combination already has a lot of torque. I do have to be careful getting off the line, especially if I am making a right turn and there is loose stuff like gravel on the ground. I spin tires pretty easily. Not sure how much eTorque contributes but any amount is on top of what the Hemi already has. I do pretty much drive like I have a raw egg under my right foot.
 
This video explains it pretty well if you have 6 minutes...

It would be nice if he listed his sources. I'm not sure why I should give any more credibility to this than any other random poster. Just because he made it into a video and a lot of people like his videos, does not mean he is right.
 
Perhaps you mis-spoke. Etorque provides no torque on engine start but does add torque on take-off.

There is a lot of misinformation that's thrown around in forums. I would encourage anyone who really wants to understand how the system works to search the web for any of the dozens of articles and videos which explain it, and avoid forums for that information because of the contradictory information that exists in them.
If it's not providing torque on engine start... how is it starting the engine? And since the truck is still in gear, with the engine spinning up, yes, it is providing torque. The videos and articles regurgitate marketing information which is largely lacking in how the system actually works.
This video explains it pretty well if you have 6 minutes...

That video does not tell the whole story. If you use an OBD tool with an app, you can view live input/output of the 48V system. When I had a 2021 with eTorque before getting my EcoD, I drove around for a bit watching what the system did. When taking your foot off the accelerator and not touching the brakes, the system was idle i.e. there is no regenerative braking taking place until you apply at least a miniscule amount of braking pressure - this makes sense because coasting is the most efficient thing you can do once you're already moving. During regular cruising, with adequate charge, the system provided torque to aid the engine for short periods of time - it does this so the battery can drain to have spare capacity for regen during braking, and and also saves some fuel. eTorque plays a role in upshifts and downshifts - it provides smoother shifts through its direct control of engine speed and in turn saves fuel & transmission wear through rev matching by increasing engine speed during downshifts, and recaptures energy by slowing the engine during upshifts.
 
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It would be nice if he listed his sources. I'm not sure why I should give any more credibility to this than any other random poster. Just because he made it into a video and a lot of people like his videos, does not mean he is right.
That was just one of many videos that are out there. There are also Mopar videos out there which say basically the same thing but I wasn't able to find them in my quick search. You're free to search on your own if you don't like that one.

If it's not providing torque on engine start... how is it starting the engine? And since the truck is still in gear, with the engine spinning up, yes, it is providing torque. The videos and articles regurgitate marketing information which is largely lacking in how the system actually works.
I get what you're saying. I misunderstood what you meant in your previous post. Apologies to you sir.

That video does not tell the whole story. If you use an OBD tool with an app, you can view live input/output of the 48V system. When I had a 2021 with eTorque before getting my EcoD, I drove around for a bit watching what the system did. When taking your foot off the accelerator and not touching the brakes, the system was idle i.e. there is no regenerative braking taking place until you apply at least a miniscule amount of braking pressure - this makes sense because coasting is the most efficient thing you can do once you're already moving. During regular cruising, with adequate charge, the system provided torque to aid the engine for short periods of time - it does this so the battery can drain to have spare capacity for regen during braking, and and also saves some fuel. eTorque plays a role in upshifts and downshifts - it provides smoother shifts through its direct control of engine speed and in turn saves fuel & transmission wear through rev matching by increasing engine speed during downshifts, and recaptures energy by slowing the engine during upshifts.
Admittedly that's not the best video out there. As I said above it's what I came up with in a quick internet search. There are better videos out there that I've seen but those didn't come up with my search. Maybe I'll spend some time and find the one that was put out in 2018/19 which did a great job explaining the system, and mentioned some of the points you made above.
 
I suspect the loss of traction could also be from the factory tires. I test drove a few trucks back to back in the wet before buying mine and one had whatever they typically ship with from the factory and the traction control light was coming on while trying to pull out into traffic and get up to speed. To be clear I'm not talking about flooring it, I'm talking what I would consider normal driving while trying to pull into a 45mph street.

The other truck had the off road package with the factory Falken tires and I had zero traction issues.

As far as the E Torque goes I definitely feel it giving that extra boost when pulling away from a stop and I don't enjoy that extra jolt.
 

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