Hello from the UK

[PeteC89]

Thank for having me.

Can't imagine there are many UK guys / girls on here who have also been daft enough to import a big ol American truck with the steering wheel on the wrong side but hey, worth the effort.

She gets plenty of attention and nine times out of ten the first questions is 'what's it like on fuel?' (You got to remember we're paying approx $6.35 per gal)

I had been wanting one for a while and decided to do the deal in 2023. I've owned all sorts prior to the Ram and I can't think of anything else that gives a bit of everything.

My truck is a 2021 Ram Limited Night Edition with the 5.7 Hemi E-Torque. Aside from the Borla exhaust system and messing about with AlfaOBD & Jscan the truck is standard.

 

[go-ram]

Thank for having me.

Can't imagine there are many UK guys / girls on here who have also been daft enough to import a big ol American truck with the steering wheel on the wrong side but hey, worth the effort.

She gets plenty of attention and nine times out of ten the first questions is 'what's it like on fuel?' (You got to remember we're paying approx $6.35 per gal)

I had been wanting one for a while and decided to do the deal in 2023. I've owned all sorts prior to the Ram and I can't think of anything else that gives a bit of everything.

My truck is a 2022 Ram Limited Night Edition with the 5.7 Hemi E-Torque. Aside from the Borla exhaust system and messing about with AlfaOBD & Jscan the truck is standard.

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Welcome! Beautiful truck, I'm sure it does turn heads there in the UK.
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I'm curious, did you consider the EcoDiesel at all, for fuel economy? Or are diesel vehicles out of favor there now? Most EcoDiesels in the US can get 28 or so MPG unloaded. In southern California, diesel at normal fueling stations (not truck stops) runs $5.00-6.00 per gallon USD. Fuel is considerably cheaper in most other states in the US.
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Anyhow, welcome to 5thgenrams, I'm sure I can speak for all of us that we hope you have a great Ram experience.
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[PeteC89]

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Welcome! Beautiful truck, I'm sure it does turn heads there in the UK.
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I'm curious, did you consider the EcoDiesel at all, for fuel economy? Or are diesel vehicles out of favor there now? Most EcoDiesels in the US can get 28 or so MPG unloaded. In southern California, diesel at normal fueling stations (not truck stops) runs $5.00-6.00 per gallon USD. Fuel is considerably cheaper in most other states in the US.
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Anyhow, welcome to 5thgenrams, I'm sure I can speak for all of us that we hope you have a great Ram experience.
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Thank you!

I did have a look at the diesel options but, to be honest, I just fancied the Hemi. The diesels do sound like a decent option but there's just something about a V8.

On a run I'm usually getting high 20's mpg and that doesn't matter if I'm unloaded or towing up to our legal limit of 3.5t. You'll be surprised how close the MPG is on a run compared to the European trucks and I know which one I'd rather spend time in on a long journey.

It was rather amusing for sure when I read the window sticker which I'm sure, when converted to GBP, said something along the lines of £2,000 annually for 20,000km.

 

[go-ram]

Thank you!

I did have a look at the diesel options but, to be honest, I just fancied the Hemi. The diesels do sound like a decent option but there's just something about a V8.

On a run I'm usually getting high 20's mpg and that doesn't matter if I'm unloaded or towing up to our legal limit of 3.5t. You'll be surprised how close the MPG is on a run compared to the European trucks and I know which one I'd rather spend time in on a long journey.

It was rather amusing for sure when I read the window sticker which I'm sure, when converted to GBP, said something along the lines of £2,000 annually for 20,000km.

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You can't beat a gasoline V8 for a pleasant, satisfying driving experience. You did the right thing getting what you really wanted. Enjoy the heck out of it!
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[SD Rebel]

Thank for having me.

Can't imagine there are many UK guys / girls on here who have also been daft enough to import a big ol American truck with the steering wheel on the wrong side but hey, worth the effort.

She gets plenty of attention and nine times out of ten the first questions is 'what's it like on fuel?' (You got to remember we're paying approx $6.35 per gal)

I had been wanting one for a while and decided to do the deal in 2023. I've owned all sorts prior to the Ram and I can't think of anything else that gives a bit of everything.

My truck is a 2022 Ram Limited Night Edition with the 5.7 Hemi E-Torque. Aside from the Borla exhaust system and messing about with AlfaOBD & Jscan the truck is standard.

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Pretty rare, awesome to see. I follow Turbo Transport, another UK based RAM owner, who uses it for his luxury car hauler business, also has a black RAM 5th gen, usually hauling an enclosed trailer with a Bugatti or Ferrari across the channel.

Is your mpg calculations based on the UK 4.5l gallon or the US 3.8L gallon?

 

[HemiDude]

Welcome, and congrats on a great looking rig!

 

[1BADRAMLIMITED]

WelcoMe beautiful truck!

 

[go-ram]

@ PeteC89: I just noticed that you have the MFT (multi-function tailgate), as do I. I don't know if you've already discovered this or not, but I have found that Ram's MFT is by far the easiest pickup truck bed to get up into, and IMO the additional retractable center step is not necessary (assuming one has roughly normal motion capabilities). I'm in my late 60s with some lower-back problems, but my legs, knees and arms thankfully still work normally, and here's what I do - all in one easy, fluid motion:
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1) Left hand pushes down on the MFT switch, it unlatches, as I open the left swing gate my hand moves to the top of the gate and I open the gate by maybe 60 degrees of arc.​

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2) I place my right foot on the center drop-down portion of the bumper in front of the license plate and push my body up with my right leg while steadying myself with my left hand on top of the left swing gate. If my hands are empty, I will also put my right hand atop the closed right-side swing gate and I can help pull myself up with my right arm while pushing off the bumper with my right leg.​

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3) Step into the bed with left leg and continue steadying myself with left hand atop left gate and/or right hand atop right gate as necessary as I bring my right foot up into the bed.​

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4) Stepping down out of the bed is almost as easy as getting in, because I can use either right or left hands (or both) atop their respective swing gates to steady myself as I step downward onto the bumper center section and then onto the ground.​

Anyhow, that's a huge bonus with the Ram MFT that I believe Ram has never touted as a selling point as they should (I guess they want to sell more of the center retractable steps for $300). I've used Ford's and GM's step-into-the-bed solutions, and although they are definitely better than no steps, they pale in comparison to the ease, safety and speed of learning the fluid, easy, fast motion I describe above with Ram's MFT. I can get up into my bed and down to the ground again while the Ford and GM people are still fiddling with deploying their multi-step contraptions
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PS: One thing I forgot to mention above is that doing it the way I describe above with a Ram MFT is that your CG (center of gravity) is inherently lower because when you first start to push up into the bed off your right leg, your body is slightly bent at the waist as you lean forward into the bed as you push & pull your way up. In particular with Ford's pull-out step system, but also with GM's flop-down step system, your body posture is basically erect, which puts your CG higher, and if you don't deploy and grab the extended grab-handles that Ford & GM provide, you (or at least I do) feel like you might fall backward. So for me, in addition to the MFT way of getting into the bed being much faster and easier, I feel safer and more confident that I'm not going to fall backwards as I step into my truck bed.
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[PeteC89]

Pretty rare, awesome to see. I follow Turbo Transport, another UK based RAM owner, who uses it for his luxury car hauler business, also has a black RAM 5th gen, usually hauling an enclosed trailer with a Bugatti or Ferrari across the channel.

Is your mpg calculations based on the UK 4.5l gallon or the US 3.8L gallon?

For sure, not many over here. I think I know the guy you're referring to as I've passed him on the motorway a handful of times.

Yea, my calculations are based on UK Gal's. So when I'm touching 30mpg that's maybe around 25mpg US (?), which I think is really good considering. Most of the vans we've got on the fleet at work, which are all diesel, struggle to achieve that.

 

[PeteC89]

@ PeteC89: I just noticed that you have the MFT (multi-function tailgate), as do I. I don't know if you've already discovered this or not, but I have found that Ram's MFT is by far the easiest pickup truck bed to get up into, and IMO the additional retractable center step is not necessary (assuming one has roughly normal motion capabilities). I'm in my late 60s with some lower-back problems, but my legs, knees and arms thankfully still work normally, and here's what I do - all in one easy, fluid motion:
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1) Left hand pushes down on the MFT switch, it unlatches, as I open the left swing gate my hand moves to the top of the gate and I open the gate by maybe 60 degrees of arc.​

​

2) I place my right foot on the center drop-down portion of the bumper in front of the license plate and push my body up with my right leg while steadying myself with my left hand on top of the left swing gate. If my hands are empty, I will also put my right hand atop the closed right-side swing gate and I can help pull myself up with my right arm while pushing off the bumper with my right leg.​

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3) Step into the bed with left leg and continue steadying myself with left hand atop left gate and/or right hand atop right gate as necessary as I bring my right foot up into the bed.​

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4) Stepping down out of the bed is almost as easy as getting in, because I can use either right or left hands (or both) atop their respective swing gates to steady myself as I step downward onto the bumper center section and then onto the ground.​

Anyhow, that's a huge bonus with the Ram MFT that I believe Ram has never touted as a selling point as they should (I guess they want to sell more of the center retractable steps for $300). I've used Ford's and GM's step-into-the-bed solutions, and although they are definitely better than no steps, they pale in comparison to the ease, safety and speed of learning the fluid, easy, fast motion I describe above with Ram's MFT. I can get up into my bed and down to the ground again while the Ford and GM people are still fiddling with deploying their multi-step contraptions
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PS: One thing I forgot to mention above is that doing it the way I describe above with a Ram MFT is that your CG (center of gravity) is inherently lower because when you first start to push up into the bed off your right leg, your body is slightly bent at the waist as you lean forward into the bed as you push & pull your way up. In particular with Ford's pull-out step system, but also with GM's flop-down step system, your body posture is basically erect, which puts your CG higher, and if you don't deploy and grab the extended grab-handles that Ford & GM provide, you (or at least I do) feel like you might fall backward. So for me, in addition to the MFT way of getting into the bed being much faster and easier, I feel safer and more confident that I'm not going to fall backwards as I step into my truck bed.
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Yep, got the fancy tailgate back there.

At the time of buying the truck I just thought the MFT looked kinda cool and I'm the kind of guy that want's to try and tick as many options as possible when buying a vehicle. Can't be doing with those little blank plate on the dash and all that but it is very handy and one of those things that you don't realise you needed in your life until you have it.

Not to try and make you sounds old but I'm half your age but I totally agree with what you're saying. Much easier to jump in with or without the step. I also find it makes loading or strapping loads down easier as you can get closer to the bed when the tailgate is open like a door instead of folded down.

 

[go-ram]

@PeteC89:
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Re: "Not to try and make you sounds old but I'm half your age ..."
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Ha ha! The great thing about being my age is that most of us who make it this far just don't care anymore.
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As with you, I also appreciate being able to load/unload things without the drop-down tailgate in the way - that's another huge benefit to anyone with lower back problems.
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I also appreciate and use the heck out of the bed divider that came with the Bed Utility Group. BTW, if your truck has the divider, one can order the parts from Amazon that allow DT owners to use it as a bed extender, too. Ram stopped supporting that functionality as of the DT half-tons in 2019, but the parts are all still the same as the DS half-tons and if one buys and installs the cleats, even DT owners can have the bed extender.
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