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2019+ Rams with Lifts/Levels, and/or aftermarket wheel tire setups

joshsouth12

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How do those ride on the road compared to the stock tires?
Ride is great, no noticeable difference when it comes to bumps, etc. they drive a little more responsively, or firmly (not sure how to describe it - definitely a better grip to the road. Noise level is great, can only hear a faint hum to them at highway speeds, nothing like a lot of mud terrains were you sound like you are in an aircraft preparing for takeoff.

They are nearly twice as heavy as the stock tires, and my mileage has taken a small hit, was getting 18.8 or so combined before, and calculation shows I am in the high 17s, so not bad at all.

I read a lot of conflicting information before upgrading because I have the 3.21 gear ratio, where people indicated the shift points were going to be garbage, especially when accelerating at highway speeds going uphill. Haven’t found that to be the case at all, just drove 600 miles round-trip earlier this week doing anywhere from 65 mph to 85 mph, without issue. If I noticed anything, it would only have been because I was paying extremely close attention and almost “looking for“ it to perform differently.
 

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Ride is great, no noticeable difference when it comes to bumps, etc. they drive a little more responsively, or firmly (not sure how to describe it - definitely a better grip to the road. Noise level is great, can only hear a faint hum to them at highway speeds, nothing like a lot of mud terrains were you sound like you are in an aircraft preparing for takeoff.

They are nearly twice as heavy as the stock tires, and my mileage has taken a small hit, was getting 18.8 or so combined before, and calculation shows I am in the high 17s, so not bad at all.

I read a lot of conflicting information before upgrading because I have the 3.21 gear ratio, where people indicated the shift points were going to be garbage, especially when accelerating at highway speeds going uphill. Haven’t found that to be the case at all, just drove 600 miles round-trip earlier this week doing anywhere from 65 mph to 85 mph, without issue. If I noticed anything, it would only have been because I was paying extremely close attention and almost “looking for“ it to perform differently.
If you haven't reprogrammed your speedometer, it's off by 4-5 mph at those speeds and part of the reason why your mpg's dropped.

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If you haven't reprogrammed your speedometer, it's off by 5-6 mph at those speeds and part of the reason why your mpg's dropped.

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For sure - that’s why I’m hand calculating it. A lot of math, but it’s easy to do. Dash calculation shows I’ve lost 3MPG, but my actual math results in what I described before

Will Be looking into AlfaOBD eventually, but so much conflicting info on whether it works without disabling parksense, etc.
 

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For sure - that’s why I’m hand calculating it. A lot of math, but it’s easy to do. Dash calculation shows I’ve lost 3MPG, but my actual math results in what I described before

Will Be looking into AlfaOBD eventually, but so much conflicting info on whether it works without disabling parksense, etc.
Even hand calculating is wrong if you're using the mileage from your odometer.

AlfaOBD will not disable your ParkSense.
 

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Even hand calculating is wrong if you're using the mileage from your odometer.
AlfaOBD will not disable your ParkSense.
I know - the math isn't hard, and I like it.
And good to know on AlfaOBD - need to take the plunge, but I'm afraid it'll be the gateway to more mods - which will not go over well with the Mrs. :)

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I’m using circumference of new wheels to

I know - the math isn't hard, and I like it.
And good to know on AlfaOBD - need to take the plunge, but I'm afraid it'll be the gateway to more mods - which will not go over well with the Mrs. :)

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You're one of the few that realizes that. :cool:
 

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Rough Country 3.5” lift with loaded struts and upgraded V2 shocks. 295/70-18 Nitto G2’s. No rubbing , rides great.
 

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Motofab 2" level spacers. 275/60/20 (33") tires with 1/2" wheel spacers. The level spacers did not change the ride quality at all.

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Revel Links and Daystar spacers. 34.5" tires. between 1/2 and 1" rake between front and back (depending on how much Air Ride inflates the suspension).
Can you tell me what you mean by 1/2” the 1” rake? Are you saying the front sits up that much higher, or the rear? I have 2020 limited also and I’ve been looking at the revel links, but confused to whether the daystar is even necessary for leveling purposes. I don’t want the front or rear to sit higher.
 

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Can you tell me what you mean by 1/2” the 1” rake? Are you saying the front sits up that much higher, or the rear? I have 2020 limited also and I’ve been looking at the revel links, but confused to whether the daystar is even necessary for leveling purposes. I don’t want the front or rear to sit higher.
Rake is the rear being higher than the front. Squat would be the opposite.
 

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Hey guys been reading the threads for a while now and finally got to installing my setup on my 2019 bighorn! Installed the Bilstein 5100’s up front on circlip setting #6 (2.2in)and installed Motofab 1” spacers in the rear. Truck is non-orp. Planning on getting 295/60r20 tires on my factory 20” wheels. Measurements before and after the bilsteins we’re taken from ground to bottom of fender on front and back.
Before: Front- 36.25in Rear- 38.5in
After: Front- 38.5in Rear- 39.5in
Had some clunking that began after my drive home but was a quick fix when I went through and retorqued everything I had touched just to find out I left a few nuts a tad loose on the top of the strut and lower control arms! Overall I feel that the bilsteins have improved the ride quality over stock. Feels a little more solid of a ride but any pot holes or bumps in the road I roll over it eats them up much more smooth than the stock shocks did. I don’t get that feeling that I need to brace myself whenever I hit any bump in the road now.
Thanks @sdramsey24 @MarkB67 @neeginan for helping me out with answering questions about the setups!
Here’s pics with the new tires. Ended up going with 285/60r20 Cooper discoverer at3 xlt! If I had to change anything, I will increase the bilsteins to clip #7 and add the mopar uca’s. I have an inch of rake as it stands now but I think I’d be more content with the .25-.5” rake instead and it would give me a little more space in the front wheel well to better match the rear.
 

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Love them! Have the aggressive look without the road noise and they’re a really soft ride. My mpg has gone down from 17.5-15.5 tho so far but I expect it to increase just a little once they wear a bit.
Is that your adjusted MPG doing calculation, or just what is displaying on cluster? If the latter and you haven’t adjusted your Speedo, then you are off on mpg approximately 10%
 

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Ride is great, no noticeable difference when it comes to bumps, etc. they drive a little more responsively, or firmly (not sure how to describe it - definitely a better grip to the road. Noise level is great, can only hear a faint hum to them at highway speeds, nothing like a lot of mud terrains were you sound like you are in an aircraft preparing for takeoff.

They are nearly twice as heavy as the stock tires, and my mileage has taken a small hit, was getting 18.8 or so combined before, and calculation shows I am in the high 17s, so not bad at all.

I read a lot of conflicting information before upgrading because I have the 3.21 gear ratio, where people indicated the shift points were going to be garbage, especially when accelerating at highway speeds going uphill. Haven’t found that to be the case at all, just drove 600 miles round-trip earlier this week doing anywhere from 65 mph to 85 mph, without issue. If I noticed anything, it would only have been because I was paying extremely close attention and almost “looking for“ it to perform differently.
That mpg drop is encouraging. I had ruled out upgrading my tires and lift due to mpg hit. I have same set up on my current tundra and my mpg dropped from 18 to 12.5. I wonder if the aftermarket rims were the problem. I think most aftermarket rims are at least 20 pounds heavier. I'd be okay with only a 2 or 3 mpg hit
 

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That mpg drop is encouraging. I had ruled out upgrading my tires and lift due to mpg hit. I have same set up on my current tundra and my mpg dropped from 18 to 12.5. I wonder if the aftermarket rims were the problem. I think most aftermarket rims are at least 20 pounds heavier. I'd be okay with only a 2 or 3 mpg hit

Aftermarket wheels aren't anywhere near 20 lbs heavier. My aftermarket 20's are about a pound heavier than the stock 22's. LT tires are the biggest hit to mpg's. If you don't want a big mpg hit, you'll need to find an XL tire.
 

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Aftermarket wheels aren't anywhere near 20 lbs heavier. My aftermarket 20's are about a pound heavier than the stock 22's. LT tires are the biggest hit to mpg's. If you don't want a big mpg hit, you'll need to find an XL tire.
I wouldn't think so but mine were 16 pounds heavier than stock (toyota rock warrior wheels) assuming their weight listed was correct. My aftermarket wheels were listed at 33 pounds but were actually 44. Unfortunately I will have to have a pretty heavy e rated tire
 

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