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Note: Everytime is amended to say, with the exception of a high payload truck with 3.21 gears....hahaha....good stuff.

If you post a pic of it, I guess I will have to go back and replace Everytime with almost Everytime except one...hahaha

Hahaha....sure enough....the one unicorn...a 3.21 truck with probably the best payload ever seen...hahaha. You win, you win. Good stuff. As far as a prize...you get the same one as the guy with the lowest payload. Something to talk about! I guess the confusion of what I am trying to say...

Since this is the 1500 forum I should not have to explain this, but maybe it will help. 1500 trucks, 2500/3500 Hemi trucks are GCWR limited. Meaning. Once you nail the 17000 in the 1500 and the 22500 in the Hemi HeftyDuty that is it. Ultimately, the max tow rating is a flatbed type trailer...

Ok. Since others say tow ratings do not change. Let's not talk about tow ratings. Let's look at numbers. So now that we got some information, we can do that. But, one more question. What is the GVWR of this 5th wheel? I am guessing the numbers you shared are base weights. You will be much...

Do you got a pic of that payload...you may be winner winner chicken dinner on having the highest payload in our payload thread.

The max tow rating is with a 300 load 70 pound hitch and 10% tongue weight. So unless you drive that truck by yourself and have a cargo trailer you can load to 10% your max tow rating is bogus...Everytime. Remember, the post I am referring to is a camper....bogus...everytime

You can not have one without the other. They are the same. The tow rating goes down as the payload is used. Good times

They are. Exactly. Which is why the tow rating for a 5th wheel is different. You said exactly what I said. So a 8140 tow rating is limited to the 10% tongue weight. A 5th wheel will have 18 to 25 % this lowering the tow rating. This is hard to describe with a 1500, but look at the 3500...

All that said. Depending the truck you do come back and tell us you have. If you weight the setup and you are under your front and Rear GAWR and you keep enough of the original weight on the front...you may be fine. But unless you have a quad cab 2wd and are traveling by yourself with...

Let's say this. You make no mention of what truck you have...but let's say, 1500, Hemi 4x4 3.92 7100 GVWR 17000 GCWR Avg 1500 payload. 7100 minus 1500 is a base weight of 5600 1500 minus 300 minus 150 equals 1050 1050 pin weight would be for a 5800 lb 5th wheel. Need more info about...

The tow capacity for a 5th wheel would be different. You would have to account for the much larger pin weight... But, we know you have towed 5th wheels quite successfully...so, it can be done...but I find it quite interesting.

I really do not want to get into this...but here goes The 8140 tow rating is with 10% tongue weight. So a max tongue weight of 814lbs...this is with only a 300lb passenger/driver combo. Most 5th wheels are about 22% so 1740lbs...if your weight is true on your 5th wheel. Most 1500 trucks...

With fingers crossed we can hope the hurricane engine can be mated with electric for that hybrid. They got the 4XE jeeps...RAM is usually right behind Jeep, both for the sake of the brand and trying to make it more robust. A hybrid truck, where I can drive my 2 miles to work everyday on...

The RAM will have a range extender, and in principle is a hybrid...:eek: 3 2 1

We spent the night in Moshannon. Snow coverage was very odd. Some places had 8 inches in one spot, then bare right ahead of it. Was a great night of adventuring. Ran into an unmarked gate at the fire tower we wanted to watch sunset at...but we got there too late anyways. We even had to...

Just a few more hours...haha...boss is still away on a Friday...lol

Never did get the one for HDRAMS. my poor HeftyDuty has to drive around with a 5th Gen Rams logo...it is a conspiracy for sure. And, we do not get the ads blocked at HD RAMS either. Another conspiracy. It is like we are not real.