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Finn5033

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Your claims that gearing doesn't mean squat for towing are wrong. Just look at rams website.
Take a simple spec you like. Change the gearing. You'll see what we all can. Eg CC, BH2 3.21 towing is 8000 to 8200, now change the gearing 3.92 gives you 3000lb more

He didn’t say towing, he said it doesn’t effect payload
 

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here is ours, 2020 Laramie Level 2 Crew/5.7 bed/3.92/4wd
punching in the vin# said its maxed out to tow 9897lbs
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Just for info. 3.21 or 3.92 have nothing to do with payload. They determine gross combined weight rating.

Just mentioning so people do not think getting/swapping to the 3.21 will make their payload higher.

It will happen lol
Yes, for max towing. Which is based off of GCWR.

3.21 13900
3.92. 17000.

Gear ratio has nothing to do with GVWR and payload. A 3.21 truck with 1500 payload will have the same payload as the same truck with 3.92

Both gear ratio trucks will have 7100 GVWR with 4x4 and 6900 GVWR with 2wd.
Your claims that gearing doesn't mean squat for towing are wrong. Just look at rams website.
Take a simple spec you like. Change the gearing. You'll see what we all can. Eg CC, BH2 3.21 towing is 8000 to 8200, now change the gearing 3.92 gives you 3000lb more
I think that was exactly how I explained it.

A 3.92 has exactly 3100 pounds more towing capacity than a 3.21.

They both have the same payload capacity.

3.21 13900 GCWR note: Hemi
3.92 17000 GCWR note: Hemi

4x4 either ratio 7100 GVWR. Note: Hemi
4x2 either ratio 6900 GVWR. Note: Hemi
 

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Does anyone know why some have a 7100 GVWR and some have 7200? What adds the extra 100 pounds?
 

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Does anyone know why some have a 7100 GVWR and some have 7200? What adds the extra 100 pounds?
Someone else may chime in for sure, but I believe the eco-diesels get that bump...probably to be able to match the increase in weight due to all the ancillary diesel things.
 

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yes, the eco diesel gets the bump to 7200.

No one is really sure yet why. Other than the theory they used the extra capacity for the power of the diesel.


If you look at our HeavyDuty trucks...a 5.7 Hemi only got 9000 GVWR while the Cummins got 10000. Then the 6.4l came along and got the 10000.

Then only difference being a capacity change on the front axle.

Best explanation I got without going down the towing rabbit hole.
 

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Even though the eco diesel gets 7200 GVWR in 4x4 trim, the diesel weighs 140 more than the non-eTorque hemi which has 7100 GVWR. So it will typically have 40 less payload. On the other hand, if you compare the diesel to the eTorque hemi (~80 pounds heavier than the non-eTorque) the diesel will typically have 40 more payload.
 

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Yep those are lower than I expected. Curious about the BigHorn Crew Cab payload if you see one. Thanks for sharing those numbers!
I have a 2019 Big Horn Crew Cab 4x4. Here is my sticker:
 

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2020 Lonestar Crew Cab 4x2
 

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Does anyone know how much the stock muffler and resonators weigh? I'm wondering what the weight savings are going to a cat back with a performance muffler and resonator(s) delete.
 

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The good news is this thread and this forum stopped me from making a mistake. I sold my Grand Cherokee because it wouldn’t pull my enclosed car hauler well with the family all on board. It’s payload in Overland trim was 1100. I was all set on getting a Longhorn with air suspension, RamBoxes, panoramic roof, 33 gallon tank, and Off road group. I even had a dealer have their commercial sales guy work up payload numbers for me when I insisted it wouldn’t be the 1,800 number. He came back with 1,560 - which this thread has absolutely proven impossible.

‘’The bad news is this information has driven me to Ford. I’ve checked the stickers on several King Ranch and Platinum models with the same options as my Longhorn build (except Ramboxes and Air suspension, of course) and all had payload ratings higher than 1500. So either I can have a Ram or I can have the options I want. Or I can have a 3/4 ton Ram or a 1/2 ton Ford. I’m not a brand champion for either, but it certainly looks like leaf springs make a big difference in payload while coils make a big difference in softness of ride.
Its not the leaf springs creating the higher payloads, it's the lighter aluminum body. Wait until you tow with that F150. The lightweight truck gets tossed around with any decent trailer. My new RAM tows the same trailers MUCH better even though it has 300lbs less payload than my previous 2015 F150 supercrew.
 
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2019 RAM 1500 Bighorn Crew Cab 4x4 North Edition with HEMI eTorque and 20" rims. (1634 lbs) Decent payload considering the heavy options I have such as the eTorque battery and off road package skid plates.
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Its not the leaf springs creating the higher payloads, it's the lighter aluminum body. Wait until you tow with that F150. The lightweight truck gets tossed around with any decent trailer. My new RAM tows the same trailers MUCH better even though it has 300lbs less payload than my previous 2015 F150 supercrew.

‘Full disclosure: I’m back. Ordered a 21 Longhorn a week ago. I have a VIN but it doesn’t yet show a payload result on the ramtrucks.com lookup tool. Based on others with similar equipment where I saw the sticker, i’m expecting mine to come in around 1,350. I’d love more, but it’ll do. I dont know how much the technology package or power fold trailer mirrors will cost me in weight penalty, but it shouldn’t be that much.
 

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‘Full disclosure: I’m back. Ordered a 21 Longhorn a week ago. I have a VIN but it doesn’t yet show a payload result on the ramtrucks.com lookup tool. Based on others with similar equipment where I saw the sticker, i’m expecting mine to come in around 1,350. I’d love more, but it’ll do. I dont know how much the technology package or power fold trailer mirrors will cost me in weight penalty, but it shouldn’t be that much.
The power fold tow mirrors are apparently ~60lbs???
I have a crew cab "long bed" bighorn ill post my payload sticker in a minute.
 

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